# 20 Groups of control is possible **URL:** \ **Category:** IV - Discussion\ **Created:** [August 24, 2022, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/20-groups-of-control-is-possible/212119 "2022-08-24T01:58:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![HasanIchess](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/hasanichess/32/103811_2.png) [@HasanIchess](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/HasanIchess)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/20-groups-of-control-is-possible/212119/1 "2022-08-24T01:58:55Z")
![imagen](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/6/a/6a76ad2e120cbc90fab310a316d82ed1fb8b4840.jpeg) aoe2 has 20 control groups, for aoe4 the configuration could be the following for groups from 11 to 20 **Select control group** ![imagen](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/9/1/911faf89591508d29cf9720b660c98009a29c40d.png) Alt+1 Alt+2 etc **Focus of control group** ![imagen](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/a/5/a5126745e9ae80b749b61c541681dc4b25b2eefc.png) Alt+1 (x2) Alt+2 (x2) etc **Set control group** ![imagen](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/f/c/fcf555c763f062414a1032348e051d4b36899621.png) Shift+Alt+1 Shift+Alt+2 etc **Add to control group** ![imagen](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/a/8/a84988045048149371daeb4d948b030fad658fda.png) Shift+Ctrl+1 Shift+Ctrl+2 etc **Remove of control group** ![imagen](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/a/8/a814c64bfb2cd73b5f9cbaa49d158637ed75a063.png) Shift+Ctrl+Alt+1 Shift+Ctrl+Alt+2 etc Note: the hotkeys are long but this is how I practice to use: remove from all control groups _or also_ Ctrl+Alt+1 Ctrl+Alt+2 etc _Since the new civilizations are ready, and the rework of the sea is near, I make a poll for the developers to include it in their list of priorities_ ---
**Author:** ![CRothlisberger](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/crothlisberger/32/29957_2.png) [@CRothlisberger](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/CRothlisberger)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 4:37am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/20-groups-of-control-is-possible/212119/2 "2022-08-24T04:37:18Z")
Are you actually using that many control groups? I’ve never even seen someone use all ten. ---
**Author:** ![GeerOfWar1426](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/geerofwar1426/32/104523_2.png) [@GeerOfWar1426](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/GeerOfWar1426)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/20-groups-of-control-is-possible/212119/3 "2022-08-24T04:42:44Z")
Where’s the option for: “Don’t spend any time ever on adding more control groups” I could literally at all timelines in this game’s life find something more useful than adding more control groups. 10 is more than enough. ---
**Author:** ![HasanIchess](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/hasanichess/32/103811_2.png) [@HasanIchess](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/HasanIchess)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/20-groups-of-control-is-possible/212119/4 "2022-08-24T05:54:05Z")
there are buildings that I place offensively and other buildings that are the base, with the control group I can choose which buildings I want to produce units, and I multiply that by each type of building: barracks, archery, stables… if it is useful to me . As well as the reassignable keys if you are not going to use it, it does not harm you in the game, the new civis are already there and the new sea is close, so they could integrate this as a priority as a matter of low priority, I think that aoe4 should overcome to previous versions ---
**Author:** ![HasanIchess](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/hasanichess/32/103811_2.png) [@HasanIchess](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/HasanIchess)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/20-groups-of-control-is-possible/212119/5 "2022-08-24T05:58:16Z")
maybe if you could use control groups with Alt + from 1 to 4, maybe he would be using it more than those ![imagen](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/6/b/6bbce8fa1a910ea14e61e673a486bbafd7147bda.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Flagged9436](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/flagged9436/32/123309_2.png) [@Flagged9436](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Flagged9436)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/20-groups-of-control-is-possible/212119/6 "2022-08-24T06:06:23Z")
I use All 10? And I would love atleast 5 more 🤷🏻 ---
**Author:** ![KingStarscream9](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/kingstarscream9/32/104066_2.png) [@KingStarscream9](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/KingStarscream9)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/20-groups-of-control-is-possible/212119/7 "2022-08-24T15:20:12Z")
20 controls groups? [![](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/9/4/9467330f928f2a64d8a7fa4dfbcf5ba519819ba2.jpeg "But Why? - Jontron") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2weNM4JtME) ---
**Author:** ![HasanIchess](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/hasanichess/32/103811_2.png) [@HasanIchess](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/HasanIchess)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/20-groups-of-control-is-possible/212119/8 "2022-08-25T07:39:16Z")
some like me may consider the remappable keys useless because we didn’t reassign anything, however the devs pleased you guys ---
**Author:** ![HasanIchess](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/hasanichess/32/103811_2.png) [@HasanIchess](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/HasanIchess)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/20-groups-of-control-is-possible/212119/9 "2022-08-27T21:19:34Z")
some may want 1 or 2 more, but since you can make twenty, it is better to do it at once > [@20 Groups of control is possible](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/20-groups-of-control-is-possible/212119/6): > > I use All 10? And I would love atleast 5 more person_shrugging:t2 ---
**Author:** ![HasanIchess](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/hasanichess/32/103811_2.png) [@HasanIchess](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/HasanIchess)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/20-groups-of-control-is-possible/212119/10 "2023-04-14T00:06:20Z")
It’s encouraging to know other players use 11-20 control groups ![imagen](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/c/5/c58b9540b07194ee4f32da36158d735a97acf21f.jpeg) [https://twitter.com/pinch3terneira/status/1646165696013910017](https://twitter.com/pinch3terneira/status/1646165696013910017) **Design proposal** _The additional 11-20 groups are on top of groups 0-9, so it doesn’t affect those who don’t decide to use more than 10 control groups, thanks_ ![imagen](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/1/f/1f0bb223d2a505b71633a66f25db1e492da9e904.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![HasanIchess](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/hasanichess/32/103811_2.png) [@HasanIchess](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/HasanIchess)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 4:26am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/20-groups-of-control-is-possible/212119/11 "2024-12-16T04:26:20Z")
In this video Vortix mentions that it would be useful to have **more control groups** to divide the javelin throwers into groups of 5 🥲 [https://youtu.be/cv2T5I8XMJQ?si=CC\_PEYRAvYVr57AN&t=499](https://youtu.be/cv2T5I8XMJQ?si=CC_PEYRAvYVr57AN&t=499) ![imagen](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/b/0/b070b7df44c48d1435aa7f8380457d04018d1dfb.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Llorsh](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/llorsh/32/146888_2.png) [@Llorsh](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Llorsh)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/20-groups-of-control-is-possible/212119/12 "2024-12-16T15:25:10Z")
Well, just like 0.0000001% of players would use it, but why not? Vortix didn’t say it would be useful to have more control groups, he said it would be complicated. I’m pretty sure not even he would make 6 control groups of 5 javelin throwers each, but whatever, if some people want that I would agree. That doesn’t affects me. ---
**Author:** ![HasanIchess](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/hasanichess/32/103811_2.png) [@HasanIchess](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/HasanIchess)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/20-groups-of-control-is-possible/212119/13 "2024-12-16T19:59:34Z")
At least on a hybrid map like Forest Ponds it’s useful to me. ---
**Author:** ![HasanIchess](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/hasanichess/32/103811_2.png) [@HasanIchess](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/HasanIchess)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2025, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/20-groups-of-control-is-possible/212119/14 "2025-09-07T20:46:51Z")
Please, if you have some time available among your priorities, add more control groups. 🙏 ![imagen](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/8/2/82a168e11feb77ddaecbb0446eccebd9b40bbfd7.jpeg)