# "A New World" DLC suggestion **URL:** \ **Category:** II - Discussion\ **Created:** [December 29, 2020, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/a-new-world-dlc-suggestion/112582 "2020-12-29T21:21:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Szaladon](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/szaladon/32/114743_2.png) [@Szaladon](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Szaladon)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/a-new-world-dlc-suggestion/112582/41 "2020-12-31T16:49:33Z")
> [@MostDragon80736](#): > > Why need to be all of your designs even more insane than the civs the devs have just presented. I guess you are very eager in breaking the game a huge bit more than the devs want to. And since they only seem to perceive the part of the community active in their forums they jump on the train of actively destroying the base game is what people want to see. The best way to let a game die is to stop supporting it and not giving new content. Is that what you want? My civ suggestion are in the same vein as some of the latest civ boni. If you don’t like it, that’s not my problem, it’s yours with the devs. > [@MostDragon80736](#): > > And since they only seem to perceive the part of the community active in their forums What does make you think so? I see civ request threads everywhere, on Reddit, Steam, here as well as on AOEZone (albeit an old one). ---
**Author:** ![MostDragon80736](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/mostdragon80736/32/29254_2.png) [@MostDragon80736](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/MostDragon80736)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/a-new-world-dlc-suggestion/112582/42 "2020-12-31T16:52:02Z")
Support needed : Game performance Not needed: New events, new civs, new superficial stuff that make people play the game once a month despite ■■■ performance to keep the xbow live subscription rolling. But if the core of the game is rotten, even those things cant pretend that there is a living game there and the support is more than just selling the last remains of the corpse. ---
**Author:** ![Josh1Axel](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/josh1axel/32/29653_2.png) [@Josh1Axel](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Josh1Axel)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/a-new-world-dlc-suggestion/112582/43 "2020-12-31T16:52:42Z")
> [@Szaladon](#): > > Some suggest that Monks Mound was the residence of the Paramount Chief. It’s a Chiefdom yes, but a very impressive one. The paramount chief of Caohkia could have called himself a King. Would that make any difference in regards to the inclusion as a civ? That’s kinda a stupid argument IMO. > > Attila was the chief of a tribal empire too. We have Khanates, Kingdoms, Duchies, Empires etc. Political organization never disqualified a civ. ![ss](https://static.ageofempires.com/aoe-forums/original/3X/0/2/02caeb79342a74efaaedbc36f54c0fb94f672b5a.jpeg) On this side of the world we call it “tribal gatherings”, most ethnic groups in America do, even today. ![reunion1](https://static.ageofempires.com/aoe-forums/original/3X/0/a/0ad8ce746a7b2fb24d8c08edd557939dd127f094.jpeg) ![reunion 2](https://static.ageofempires.com/aoe-forums/original/3X/6/b/6be79fc7ab93139d83d252b055771a2c8496f52c.jpeg) > [@Szaladon](#): > > See my point before. Portugal was kinda small during the AOE2 time frame, smaller than the area the civs I’m suggesting would cover. The kingdom of Portugal was founded in 1139 > [@Szaladon](#): > > The Holy Roman Empire was neither Holy, nor Roman nor an Empire as some other people state. That is why the Teutons exist in AoE2 > [@Szaladon](#): > > Malian campaign is based on oral history. The Huns haven’t left any written artifacts either. Sundjata founded the Mali Empire, and the Huns, which I reiterate is a bad reference, have historical records from the hand of European civilizations such as the Roman. ---
**Author:** ![Szaladon](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/szaladon/32/114743_2.png) [@Szaladon](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Szaladon)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/a-new-world-dlc-suggestion/112582/44 "2020-12-31T16:53:23Z")
Stop playing the game if you don’t like it anymore. Support, which means also game performance improvements, isn’t free. ---
**Author:** ![Hvscarl](https://forums.ageofempires.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/838e76/32.png) [@Hvscarl](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Hvscarl)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/a-new-world-dlc-suggestion/112582/47 "2020-12-31T20:59:11Z")
In another thread you said you were Polish asking for a Polish civ. So what are you, native or polish? ---
**Author:** ![Szaladon](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/szaladon/32/114743_2.png) [@Szaladon](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Szaladon)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/a-new-world-dlc-suggestion/112582/48 "2020-12-31T21:08:41Z")
He is both. It’s a bit complicated. You should ask him himself for details 11 ---
**Author:** ![DarthPyro4335](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/darthpyro4335/32/77712_2.png) [@DarthPyro4335](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/DarthPyro4335)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/a-new-world-dlc-suggestion/112582/49 "2020-12-31T21:11:03Z")
> [@Josh1Axel](#): > > 16th century XVI is the correct Roman numeral ---
**Author:** ![DarthPyro4335](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/darthpyro4335/32/77712_2.png) [@DarthPyro4335](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/DarthPyro4335)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/a-new-world-dlc-suggestion/112582/50 "2020-12-31T21:11:30Z")
I’m a mutt of many ethnicities. ---
**Author:** ![Josh1Axel](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/josh1axel/32/29653_2.png) [@Josh1Axel](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Josh1Axel)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/a-new-world-dlc-suggestion/112582/51 "2020-12-31T21:13:39Z")
Yes, I already corrected it; I had a slip. ---
**Author:** ![Josh1Axel](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/josh1axel/32/29653_2.png) [@Josh1Axel](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Josh1Axel)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/a-new-world-dlc-suggestion/112582/52 "2020-12-31T21:23:32Z")
Interesting. I have Spanish, Italian, Chinese, British, Berber and probably German ancestry. Curiously, so far I have not found Inca ancestors 🙁 (Although my ex-girlfriend was 90% Quechua, 5% Amazonian and 5% Native North American, or at least that was the result of a [DNA test](https://www.myheritage.com/?awaid=78888&awgid=0&awbid=0&awcr=pcworld.es&awc=16103_1609449696_77cfa5397bc99b18c339eb34172b7e6f&utm_source=partner_awines&utm_medium=partner&tr_ad_group=78888&utm_term=78888&utm_content=0) ---
**Author:** ![CheshireWig3203](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/cheshirewig3203/32/76099_2.png) [@CheshireWig3203](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/CheshireWig3203)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/a-new-world-dlc-suggestion/112582/53 "2020-12-31T21:32:14Z")
> [@Gaudio3342](#): > > extreme limit of the time frame of the game. Koreans, Burmese, Aztecs and Spanish have their campaigns in the 16th century. Burmese and Aztecs reached their zenith in the 16th century. Noryang Battle was in 1598 so it makes sense to add Mapuche. Araucans had horses in 1553 and learnt battle formations unlike other natives. > [@Gaudio3342](#): > > Mapuches were seminomadic people, they didn’t even had cities. Only small villages of timber and adobe houses. So the 5 nomadic civs, Bulgarians and Magyars partly Mapuche(and Muisca) have the most history recorded of any Native Civs that aren’t in the game. ---
**Author:** ![Josh1Axel](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/josh1axel/32/29653_2.png) [@Josh1Axel](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Josh1Axel)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/a-new-world-dlc-suggestion/112582/54 "2020-12-31T21:45:02Z")
> [@CheshireWig3203](#): > > Koreans, Burmese, Aztecs and Spanish have their campaigns in the 16th century. Burmese and Aztecs reached its zenith in the 16th century. Noryang Battle was in 1598 so it makes sense to add Mapuche. Araucans had horses in 1553 and learnt battle formations unlike other natives. I know you didn’t quote me but: - Koreans, Burmese, Aztecs and Spanish have centuries of recorded history before those campaigns, they were regional powers and also the Spanish have the Cid campaign. (And they were also empires or kingdoms with governmental organization) - It is a lie that the Mapuches had cavalry battle formations, especially in the 16th century. Mapuche tactics were mainly guerrilla and hiding in the woods, they only attacked when the numbers were very in their favor. The only battle in which there is a record of using large-scale cavalry was at the [Battle of La Albarrada](https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batalla_de_La_Albarrada) (and one of the few Mapuche pitched battles) and the result was disastrous. > [@CheshireWig3203](#): > > So the 5 nomadic civs, Bulgarians and Magyars partly which? > [@CheshireWig3203](#): > > Mapuche(and Muisca) have the most history recorded of any Native Civs that aren’t in the game. Error, there is much more information recorded from other American civilizations (various kingdoms and empires included). The Mapuches have been the ones who have had the most publicity around here, I suppose it is by users who belong to the country where the Mapuches live. ---
**Author:** ![CheshireWig3203](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/cheshirewig3203/32/76099_2.png) [@CheshireWig3203](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/CheshireWig3203)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/a-new-world-dlc-suggestion/112582/55 "2020-12-31T21:58:21Z")
" By 1570 they had learned the use of infantry formations, similar to the Spanish [Tercio](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tercio), that allowed them to defeat Spanish cavalry in the open field." > [@Josh1Axel](#): > > which? Tatars, Huns, Mongols, Cumans, Turks > [@Josh1Axel](#): > > Error, there is much more information recorded from other American civilizations (various kingdoms and empires included) Which? ---
**Author:** ![Josh1Axel](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/josh1axel/32/29653_2.png) [@Josh1Axel](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Josh1Axel)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/a-new-world-dlc-suggestion/112582/56 "2020-12-31T22:07:27Z")
> [@CheshireWig3203](#): > > " By 1570 they had learned the use of infantry formations, similar to the Spanish [Tercio](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tercio), that allowed them to defeat Spanish cavalry in the open field." Bibliographic source? _By the way: It is not a cavalry battle formation, and you mean that in 1570 they just learned to perform formations?_ > [@CheshireWig3203](#): > > Tatars, Huns, Mongols, Cumans, Turks All these civilizations had a government organization and traded in gold, among many other things. > [@CheshireWig3203](#): > > Which? The list is immense, but I leave you the reference of EU 4 ![Sudamérica](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/5/3/53cb949fb33965355a55969b3968f12886ee3258.png) ![Norteamerica](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/d/e/de1c9e2a67a6b1123eb30aedc0662a5d317bd770.png) I also leave you the list of Indigenous Peoples belonging to Central and South America separated by current countries. [https://mtci.bvsalud.org/listado-de-pueblos-indigenas-de-los-paises-de-america-latina/](https://mtci.bvsalud.org/listado-de-pueblos-indigenas-de-los-paises-de-america-latina/) ---
**Author:** ![CheshireWig3203](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/cheshirewig3203/32/76099_2.png) [@CheshireWig3203](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/CheshireWig3203)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/a-new-world-dlc-suggestion/112582/57 "2020-12-31T22:16:38Z")
I asked for an exact example. We never heard of the Otomi Empire. > [@Josh1Axel](#): > > traded in gold Neither Cumans or Huns. > [@Josh1Axel](#): > > By the way: It is not a cavalry battle formation, and you mean that in 1570 they just learned to perform formations? I meant Infantry battle formations. ---
**Author:** ![Josh1Axel](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/josh1axel/32/29653_2.png) [@Josh1Axel](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Josh1Axel)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/a-new-world-dlc-suggestion/112582/58 "2020-12-31T22:21:59Z")
> [@CheshireWig3203](#): > > I asked for an exact example. We never heard of the Otomi Empire. It is that they have not been advertised here … But it does not mean that they have [not existed](https://nah.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otomih). ![1200px-Otomi_cultural_center_006_by_mexikids](https://static.ageofempires.com/aoe-forums/original/3X/9/b/9be56cf0dbb75391728bda566c248d2e1b7156e6.jpeg) > [@CheshireWig3203](#): > > Neither Cumans or Huns. Ehm … I really want to tell you a lot of things, but preferably I’ll just ask you one question: What do you think these civilizations looted when they razed cities? > [@CheshireWig3203](#): > > I meant Infantry battle formations. OK And the bibliographic source? ---
**Author:** ![CheshireWig3203](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/cheshirewig3203/32/76099_2.png) [@CheshireWig3203](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/CheshireWig3203)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/a-new-world-dlc-suggestion/112582/59 "2020-12-31T22:33:52Z")
> [@Josh1Axel](#): > > And the bibliographic source? > **[MC0054412.pdf](https://www.memoriachilena.gob.cl/archivos2/pdfs/MC0054412.pdf)** > > 4.45 MB Page 360 > [@Josh1Axel](#): > > It is that they have not been advertised here … But it does not mean that they have [not existed](https://nah.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otomih). I’m still asking for an exact civ, which had more history recorded, was a major powers, had dozens of known important people, had many wars recorded. ---
**Author:** ![Josh1Axel](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/josh1axel/32/29653_2.png) [@Josh1Axel](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Josh1Axel)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/a-new-world-dlc-suggestion/112582/60 "2020-12-31T22:43:19Z")
> [@CheshireWig3203](#): > > [http://www.memoriachilena.gob.cl/archivos2/pdfs/MC0054412.pdf](http://www.memoriachilena.gob.cl/archivos2/pdfs/MC0054412.pdf) > Página 360 The Battle of Purén, where 100 or 200 Spaniards went to attack 1500 Mapuches. So, is this proof that the Mapuches learned to carry out military infantry formations in 1570? > [@CheshireWig3203](#): > > I’m still asking for an exact civ, which had more history recorded, was a major powers, had dozens of known important people, had many wars recorded. Do you know the destruction of the 6 cities by the Shuar, the Chichimeca 300-year war, the Yaqui who stopped the Spanish army of Hernán Cortés and who also fought against the Mexicans and the USA? To the Charrúa who were in contact with both the Portuguese and Spanish Empires, the Guaraní Jesuit army or the Tupí? With all due respect, you must open your borders. Do not lock yourself in nationalistic passions. Regards. ---
**Author:** ![CheshireWig3203](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/cheshirewig3203/32/76099_2.png) [@CheshireWig3203](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/CheshireWig3203)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/a-new-world-dlc-suggestion/112582/61 "2020-12-31T22:55:16Z")
What do the Charrua, Tupi, Shuar and Yaqui correspond to based on the following to be more important than the Araucans? 1. Major Kingdoms or Empires 2. Dozens of AI Names 3. More Battles than the Araucans 4. Built big cities 5. Had bigger history ---
**Author:** ![Josh1Axel](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/josh1axel/32/29653_2.png) [@Josh1Axel](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Josh1Axel)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/a-new-world-dlc-suggestion/112582/62 "2020-12-31T22:56:49Z")
And that’s why I said from the beginning: Some of these civilizations do not fit in AOE2, however I would like to see them in AoE 3 😃 [Previous page](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/a-new-world-dlc-suggestion/112582.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/a-new-world-dlc-suggestion/112582.md?page=4)