A self-made order for the future DLCs

Age of Empires II: DE II - Discussion
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Lets assume 3 civs/DLC

Somalis
Nubians
Kanembu

Tibetans
Jurchen
Khitans or Tanguts

Georgians
Armenians
Srazahk

Tarascans
Chimus
Chanka/Tiwanaku

Swahili
Shonas
Kongolese

Siamese
Chams
Nanzhao/Dali

Serbs
Vlachs
Venetians

Oriyas
Sinhalese
Kannadigas

Hausa
Songhai
Benin

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Balkans DLC:
Wallachians (+ Vlad Dracula campaign)
Serbs
+Turks Campaign

Adriatic DLC:
Venetians
Croatians/Croats
+Magyars Campaign

South American DLC
Chimú
Tupi/Guaraní
Mapuche

African DLC:
Ghana
Hausa
Kongo
Zulu
One of Tswana/Zimbabwe/Swatini

East Asian DLC:
No new civs, but all 3 (Chinese, Koreans & Japanese) civs have full campaigns

SE Asia DLC:
Thai
Lao
Tagalog

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I was thinking to use “West Asia” as a term to describe that region to avoid confusion. But “West Asia” may create more confusion than avoiding them.

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Your choices are the most illogical, who adds Tagalog ? Feels like made by somebody who knows 0 about Asia.

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Your civ choices are the wisest and most fair distribution.

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Who are the “Srazahk”? I have never heard that before.

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####### in reverse. (20 char limit)
edit: gg MS forums for censoring the civ name :man_facepalming: :man_facepalming: :man_facepalming:

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OK, thanks. I see it now :smile: :+1:.

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How would they differ from the other horse people? Word tarkan is from them.

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They could be a defensive, monk and cav archer civ

(Sorry I meant to answer Mahazona)

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Can find a uu name for them? I looked around but could not find anything.

Side note its ridiculous to censor a civi name.

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If people want to add Italian city states because they are different from each other, then let’s add first the 150 cities from China and the Indian subcontinent that had greater population than all Italy together.

I can asure you that there are cities from Southern China and Northern China that are more culturally different and have more population than two Italian city states.

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Population has nothing to do with historical impact china and india might have a huge population but they were always conquered by outside smaller forces.

Saying xyz country had this much population this much gdp is a silly argument.

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Theres plenty of turkic titles that could be used, and also the Arsiyah - Wikipedia

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I don’t quite understand if it makes sense to have a thread like this appear every little while, but whatever.
This list has been shared on other threads before. Some more notes here.
The option with * mark means it is less important than other options in the list to me.

Dynasties of China:

  • Khitans
  • Jurchens
  • Tanguts/Tibetans (Frankly, it is basically impossible for the Tibetans to avoid modern political risks. Having them share a civ with the Tanguts is a decent alternative. They have a common ancestor – the Qiang people.)
  • Nuosu/Lolos* (More decent civilization names than the names of regimes like Nanzhao and Dali.)

Kingdoms of Indochina:

  • Siamese/Thai
  • Chams* (Imperial Skirmishers can become regional units as a unique upgrade for them and the Vietnamese.)
  • (If the Nuosu couldn’t be introduced in Dynasties of China, Geographically they could be introduced here too.)

Steppe Supremacy (Central Asians):

  • Göktürks (Representing primitive Turkic peoples and Turkic peoples active in Central and East Asia before Mongols rising. This can be the last piece of the puzzle to complete the Turkic peoples in the game.)
  • Sogdians* (Representing the East Iranians and Tocharians who were very important to the Silk Road and early mediaval Central Asia.)

Bulwarks of Christendom:
(from the term Antemurale Christianitatis)

  • Armenians
  • Georgians
  • Vlachs
  • Croats** (If we need a South slav civilization that is good at navy.)

African Kingdoms II:

  • Nubians
  • Somalis (Representing East African coastal navy and trade civilizations very well.)
  • Kanembus/Hausa (Represents the Central Sahel, just as the Malians represent the Western Sahel.)
  • Kongolese/Bantu
  • Shona** (It is more likely that there is only one common Bantu civilization or only Kongolese representing the Bantu in my opinion.)

New World:

  • Muisca
  • Mapuche* (Native horse UU is interesting but it may be too late.)
  • Tarascans/Tlaxcalans** (“Burgundians” for the Aztecs.)
  • Chimus** (“Burgundians” for the Incas.)

Ancient Friend:

  • Vandals/Alans*
  • Romans**

The definition of West Asia is quite strict. Not suitable.
I guess what you’re trying to express is something like Inner Asia, Chinese Tartary, and Western Rigions (Xiyu) being that is contrasted to “China Proper”. Dynasties of China and Steppe Supremacy mentioned above are quite needed to present the rich history of this area.

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Romans will be tricky with both italians and byzantines already ingame.

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Yeah, these two are in the list cause people were discussing the “Ancient Friend” at that thread.
I put them in to reflect that only these 2 civs are acceptable if there would really be a DLC about the Ancient Friend.

You can also know my stance on Romans by the mark of **.

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I like this idea. I was opposed to it initially, but considering all African civs currently are either West or North African, it doesn’t really demonstrate the sheer diversity of Africa.

I have ideas for North American civs, like the Anasazi, Navajo, and Iroquois, but there are arguments to be made that they’re either too irrelevant to AoE2 or are more fitting for AoE3. What do you suggest?

No. Indian split was enough. And have you forgotten that part of the goal of The Last Khans and DoTD was to split the Slavs anyway?

Another African DLC so soon after the last one, or at all, is pushing it. Africa is not like Europe; there were only so many viable and relevant kingdoms/empires in the continent at that time.
However, I love the idea of a Caucasus DLC. The Armenians and Georgians are my most wanted civs currently (since I got the Khmer years ago, I haven’t wanted anything else more). Maybe even throw the Alans in there. Give all three an Orthodox architecture set coming with the DLC that the Bulgarians and Byzantines also get. I can design it if people/the devs want me to.

Maybe the censored word could be one of the civs here, but I’m not sure what else to add from Central Asia other than potentially the Kazakhs.

I mean, sure, there’s lots of potential here still, like the Swiss, the Austrians, the Serbians, the Vlachs, etc.

What I’d like to see eventually is an Oceania expansion, with the Polynesians and Micronesians, or more specific civs for each if necessary.

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That is what I came up with for the Khazar unique unit. It’s basically a cavalry archer that does more damage the more damage it takes. Ever played Lucario in Super Smash Bros? It’s like that, only a bit less extreme.