About civ splits. (My feelings and thoughts about this topic)

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(TEXT WALL WARNING).
English is not my native language so, I´m sorry for any gramatical error.

I might be a little late here but.
I’m tired of this topic!!!.
Reason: too common in forums, so I decided to left some of my thoughts here so I can bring you guys here and left your thoughts too and try to end this endless topic, I can’t just read some civ suggestion forums without seeing at least one guy asking for German or Indian split.
Believe me I also want to se a Prussian civ and an Austrian civ, but how I see people asking for them I don’t think it is the way we could se them in-game, even in that way I could see other civs getting split like France between Bourbon France and France before that German split and that’s basically saying that it won’t happen.

The only real way I think we could see civs like Prussia and Austria in-game as close as civs are as revolts for the Germans, I’m sorry Prussian and Austrian fans, but that is the way I see it “IF” we see it.

About India split, this is the one I could see in a future, but not as a split, more like a rework of some kind, because let’s be honest. In-game india is just British controlled India but not India.

How I can see this happening is just changing the name from India to Mughals or something like that, reemplacing the ships like the Caravel, Galeon and the Frigate with some Indian unique designs from this era like the Galibat, the Grab or the Ghanjah.
and of course, replacing the Cepoy and the Gurka and his Mansabar variants with a more traditional Indian units being Mughal or from the entity chosen.
and from those assets not being lost they could be re-added in a unique local settlement, could be named East india company, having this units with their respecting upgrades and Mansabar variants that could be unlocked from a technology.

In paper this could see easy bu# it is not, and yes we had major changes to civs before like the Ottomans and maybe the Russian rework, but those happened on times were AoE 3 had more personnel working on it soo…

And I can already see that guy that says "But what about Italians? they are an umbrella civ why don’t we split it and have like 50 similar Italian factions with barely or nothing different at all. and my response is the same thig that with the Germans, We could se important Italian city-states Like Venice or Florence as revolts and no more than that.

Summary: Germans and Italians are designed that way so If you want to see certain German or Italian states, there is more possibility we see them as revolts than anything else. And Indians don’t really need to be split, just a little rework and that’s all.

And I thing that’s everything I had to say, I’m sorry if I bring this topic back but I wanted to say this after seeing all of those post asking for the same thing on the same way.
But we could use this post to tell what do we thing about this topic for the sake of letting it die and our mental health.

let’s see what are your thoughts about this.

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Maybe don’t bring it up out of the blue if you don’t want to hear about it.

For every person saying “hur dur add Australia-Hungary” there’s another person smugly spouting off “ThE dEvs sAid tHeY wiLl neVEr do iT!” and coming up with shitty compromises and false equivalencies.

Personally I think it’s a tremendous waste to not add Prussia and lightly rework Germany to Austria. They were rivals with tremendous differences. But I also would much rather a civ from outside Europe so it’s totally fine if Germany is not a priority.

What I absolutely loathe seeing is this bullshit:

Stop with this fake “compromise” that absolutely no one actually wants. Prussia and Austria are autocratic monarchies that are essentially the furthest you could possibly be from revolutionary. Revolutionaries at the time were trying to do the opposite and turn Austria and Prussia into Germany. If this is the only way to have Prussia then I don’t want Prussia at all. It’s no different than the absurdity of Denmark as a revolution.

I hate this almost as much. Have you ever actually come across anyone seriously asking for this? I’ve only ever seen it as a hypothetical from the don’t split Germany crowd. Same with China, Britain, and now Lithuania. No one wants to split them, but people against splitting Germany and India constantly bring them up as some kind of slippery slope of all the civs that would be broken up if Germany and India ever got split.

This is a massively ignorant opinion. There are extremely good reasons to split both India and Germany. If no splits happen that’s fine, but revolutions are wildly inappropriate as an alternative. And stop saying India and Germany are at all comparable to the likes of Italy, China, or Britain. There is a reason 99% of comments asking for a split are for India and Germany.

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99%?
pretty sure its the same vocal minority asking again and again, and probably the same countering again and again. Never heard much about this topic outside of this specific forum and occasionally on offical discord.

Anyways, the real question is why people really care so much that they spend so much time “proving” germany needs 4 civs to w/e; or that aoe3 would explode if we had 2. Really its all so subjective and other than devs stating they aint interested, what makes it into aoe3 is outside of our control.

And then we should all move on cause these threads are just people’s head canons of which civs are more important vs people who think every single game should have “prussia goosestep musk XDXD” as if the sandbox of the empire was at every point the uber germany. The game functions fine, the german civ beloved by the majority (well most id say)of playerbase, and more could add more. Many paths with pros and cons. It is what it is.

Maybe we just need a containment thread for this topic.

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I said 99% of comments asking for a split are about Germany and India.

I did not say 99% of comments or commenters are asking for a split. It’s a recurring topic, but people complaining against it bring it up just as often and are just as annoying as those asking for it.

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