# Age of Mythology Definitive Edition. What do you expect?

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**Created:** [February 19, 2021, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/age-of-mythology-definitive-edition-what-do-you-expect/118479 "2021-02-19T14:04:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chickenland1936](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/chickenland1936/32/128169_2.png) [@Chickenland1936](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Chickenland1936)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2021, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/age-of-mythology-definitive-edition-what-do-you-expect/118479/1 "2021-02-19T14:04:43Z")

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_Poll ([view on site](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/age-of-mythology-definitive-edition-what-do-you-expect/118479/1))_

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**Author:** ![Skadidesu](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/skadidesu/32/172243_2.png) [@Skadidesu](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Skadidesu)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/age-of-mythology-definitive-edition-what-do-you-expect/118479/2 "2021-02-22T07:38:27Z")

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Quality level of AoE3 DE because it uses the same engine.  
I’m also not sure what you mean with which quality level.  
Is AoE1DE worse or better than Tale of the Dragon?  
Also Tale of the Dragon is an Expansion that didn’t update the old content.

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**Author:** ![Chickenland1936](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/chickenland1936/32/128169_2.png) [@Chickenland1936](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Chickenland1936)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/age-of-mythology-definitive-edition-what-do-you-expect/118479/3 "2021-02-22T09:38:16Z")

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Age of Empires 1 and 2 also have the same engine:

> **[Genie Engine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_Engine)**
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> The Genie Engine is a game engine developed by Ensemble Studios and used in several computer games, such as Age of Empires, Age of Empires II and its expansions (but is not used in other Ensemble Studios games) and Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds. Some of those games have been ported to the Apple Mac.
> The Genie engine was developed as the basis for Ensemble Studios' first game, Age of Empires which had the development name of "Dawn of Man". The designers received much of their inspiration from...

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**Author:** ![Skadidesu](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/skadidesu/32/172243_2.png) [@Skadidesu](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Skadidesu)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/age-of-mythology-definitive-edition-what-do-you-expect/118479/4 "2021-02-22T09:56:00Z")

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They made the mistake to remaster AoE1 in the old Engine.

AoM has a less broken Engine than AoE1, even AoE2, so it should be less of an Issue.  
I don’t know how hard it would be to port it to the AoE3(DE) engine or if they’re even that different.  
AoE1/2 have to problem of having an old hacky 2D engine that is hard to work with while AoM and AoE3 where build on a more modern 3D engine.

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**Author:** ![Chickenland1936](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/chickenland1936/32/128169_2.png) [@Chickenland1936](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Chickenland1936)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/age-of-mythology-definitive-edition-what-do-you-expect/118479/5 "2021-02-22T11:13:40Z")

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> [@Skadidesu](#):
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> AoM has a less broken Engine than AoE1, even AoE2, so it should be less of an Issue.

No, the AOM engine isn’t really good. Units stuck in buildings, gold mines, they walk off from the map, walk through walls. In AOE2 and AOE3 they never do these things. It was acceptable in 2002, but now… AOM is full of bugs, legacy bugs from the original game. EE has even more bugs. It’s not an accident that AOE2 always had larger playerbase. AOE2 has an improved version of Genie engine and AOE3 has an improved version of Bang engine.

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**Author:** ![Skadidesu](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/skadidesu/32/172243_2.png) [@Skadidesu](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Skadidesu)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/age-of-mythology-definitive-edition-what-do-you-expect/118479/6 "2021-02-22T11:18:51Z")

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AoE3DE had a lot of units stuck in things when it was released. Still happened sometimes. Not as bad as AoE1DE where units just stuck in nothing.

I wonder how easy it would be to just use the AoE3DE engine for AoMDE.  
They should have done the same for AoE1DE but AoE1DE was released before AOE2DE. Now AoE3DE is already out and they can use the engine and the experience they had making the game.

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**Author:** ![SoullessHeathen](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/soullessheathen/32/177779_2.png) [@SoullessHeathen](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/SoullessHeathen)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/age-of-mythology-definitive-edition-what-do-you-expect/118479/7 "2021-02-24T16:20:03Z")

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> [@Chickenland1936](#):
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> Units stuck in buildings, gold mines, they walk off from the map, walk through walls.

Never seen those things in AoM…

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**Author:** ![Chickenland1936](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/chickenland1936/32/128169_2.png) [@Chickenland1936](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Chickenland1936)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/age-of-mythology-definitive-edition-what-do-you-expect/118479/8 "2021-03-05T12:00:00Z")

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Now you can see those things:

> [@Units walk through walls](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/units-walk-through-walls/119698):
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> I saved this scenario and this happens always: [[AOM Pathfinding bug (Walking through walls)] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoIKfJa50Dw) There were 10 Elephants, 9 escaped, walls are untouched. Note: after the Elephants walks through walls, they can also walk through other buildings like Houses, when they approach their primary target.

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**Author:** ![FoughtBird1976](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/foughtbird1976/32/96728_2.png) [@FoughtBird1976](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/FoughtBird1976)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/age-of-mythology-definitive-edition-what-do-you-expect/118479/9 "2021-03-05T13:31:09Z")

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> [@Skadidesu](#):
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> Is AoE1DE worse or better than Tale of the Dragon?

Worse, in every possible way.

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**Author:** ![SoullessHeathen](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/soullessheathen/32/177779_2.png) [@SoullessHeathen](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/SoullessHeathen)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/age-of-mythology-definitive-edition-what-do-you-expect/118479/10 "2021-03-07T19:55:21Z")

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Honestly AoE1 just kinda… sucks. It’s not aged well.

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**Author:** ![ReanuKeeves00](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/reanukeeves00/32/65966_2.png) [@ReanuKeeves00](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/ReanuKeeves00)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/age-of-mythology-definitive-edition-what-do-you-expect/118479/11 "2021-03-31T11:20:26Z")

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I think if MS wants to make a really good DE of AoM then they can do it. Don’t see why not. Base game is really good and fun, yes there are occasional bugs and quirks, but given how they’ve managed to fix a bunch of bugs in AoE2, it shouldn’t be impossible to do it with AoM.

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**Author:** ![rtj1859](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/rtj1859/32/70385_2.png) [@rtj1859](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/rtj1859)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/age-of-mythology-definitive-edition-what-do-you-expect/118479/12 "2021-04-09T12:18:15Z")

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What I would like to see is Hua Mulan, and Zhou Tong and some other heroes whit the Chinese faction, And a hole Celtic culture.

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**Author:** ![SoullessHeathen](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/soullessheathen/32/177779_2.png) [@SoullessHeathen](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/SoullessHeathen)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/age-of-mythology-definitive-edition-what-do-you-expect/118479/13 "2021-04-09T13:46:50Z")

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I would like to see the Chinese Immortals being more than just generic heroes and each immortal being a fully unique hero with different abilities, then each major god or minor god giving access to a different immortal that complements their play style.

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**Author:** ![B0LKIA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/b0lkia/32/65853_2.png) [@B0LKIA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/B0LKIA)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/age-of-mythology-definitive-edition-what-do-you-expect/118479/14 "2021-04-11T09:32:51Z")

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I really agree to this, excellent idea. Some may give military, technology or economy bonus.
