I am an AOE3 fan. Can we also make the game end in the 18th century? Is it too hard for a brain to take?
That’s even a smaller stretch.
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I don’t agree at all. The main issue of the Three Kingdoms is that they are not separate civilisations, but short-lived political entities. I think you could low-key make the same point with the Burgundians, but even then I don’t agree.
If you only focus around timeline (which you should not), the AoE II time frame since the Conquerors or at least The Forgotten is 400 - 1600. So the Three Kingdoms are not at all in this time window.
Moreover, (Western) Romans and Huns had disappeared by 500 AD, but Celts and Goths still had kingdoms much later during the Middle Ages.
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and this is where ur wrong, DLC sales will show
ur not buying it many others will
people said the same thing, they dont want China for Warhammer Total War, look where its now
Who is we? ur just the minority, not everyone use Reddit and forums
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Ah so 200 to 500 is the same thing as 1500 to 1800? It’s really just about numbers right?
I was gonna write a long argument but in front of this conception of history it might be pointless.
It doesn’t matter anyway.
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Do u know there were Huns cavalries join Belisarius’s army? Even Huns still exist in the 6th century.
I think here is a simple thought experiment to do before one tries to justify the political entities as “civs”
You can use Celts to represent Scotland, Ireland, Brittany, etc. in the campaigns throughout the middle ages. Yes it had an inaccurate UU, but these people are all “Celts”.
When they added Italians they updated the Italian states in the Barbarossa campaign that were represented by all different civs.
When they added Burgundians they also updated the Burgundians in the Jeanne d’Arc campaign.
Are they going to replace the Chinese civ in the Vietnamese campaign and Lake Poyang to Wu? The Chinese civ in the Genghis Khan campaign to Wei?
If they do, I’ll accept those “civs” represent broader Northern or Southern Chinese cultures. But they don’t, and cannot, because the concept of those civs are nothing outside the decades-long rump states.
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Yes, a lot of things happened between 1500 and 1800, but nothing happened between 200 and 500. Human civilization just stalled for 300 years. You are right.
Thats a dumb statement cuz Hans ended up becoming Song Dynasty and others later, same argument can be said for 3k
3K becomes Jin > then turns into Tang Yuan and Song Dynasty
Which of them (Jin, Tang, Song) is NOT covered by the Chinese civ that is already in the game, and HAS TO be represented by Wei, Shu or Wu?
You never played AOE4 then, cuz those are Variants Civs, they are not space aliens or Star Troopers or star wars whaever u guys keep nonsense about
VARIANT CIVILIATION EXIST
AOE4 have 3 FRENCH CIVs, GUESS WHY
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That’s why it is a concept that sucks.
Please, contain that plague within AOE4. Those people from the “silent majority” will swallow anything the company feeds them. People here are critical, have more experience with terrible business, and think before buying.
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why are you bringing up aoe4? aoe2 and aoe4 are 2 different games. your argument is very weak. if aoe4 wants to do civ variant from the beginning, then so be it. But that’s aoe4, not aoe2. If you make civ variant in aoe2, then the game becomes aoe4 wannabe with 2D graphic. Let aoe 2 be aoe2 and aoe4 be aoe4. I play aoe4 and I personally don’t even like civ variants in that game.
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Because AoE4 is a different game
May as well add the Greeks to ranked with God powers and giant titan unit because they had that in Age of Mythology
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why because its made by forgotten empires? which did content and dlc for both games and aom
you dont like forgotten empires? too bad ur playing aoe then
they like the concept of variant civs, hence 5 chinese for aoe2
Also its not JUST that its a timeline thing. There is a series of problems with 3K civs timeline being one of them. And the reasons have been discussed to death so no point repeating it. I suggest you look at the issues raised by all the other posts and YT videos etc…
EDIT: Also also, you literally made your account with this username just to make this contribution to the discussion? That’s not suss at all…
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Because people like a company when it does things they like and dislike it when it does things they don’t like.
Not because they like or dislike the company itself for the sake of it.
But this fanboy mentality of yours really reminds me of the characteristic of “a certain group of players”, so it settles my doubts.
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Nah i had this name since long ago u can check my steam profile, its been months now
Something selling well doesn’t equal to it being good. This happens a lot in the videogame industry, just see how companies like EA and Bethesda keep existing despite their products being… What they are.
Many people defended V&V, saying Reddit and the forums (literally the only big easily accessible platforms to discuss this game) were just a minority, and dismissed their complaints. Now V&V sits at around 30% positive reviews on Steam.
Many things the community asked for were turned into official content. Georgians and Armenians. Indians split into multiple civs. A campaign-only DLC. Before TMR, every single Reddit post was spammed with comments asking for Georgians and Armenians, I grew tired of reading it over and over. And yet, in all these years I haven’t seen a single user ask for the Three Kingdoms as civs. Even when people were discussing fringe and obscure civs, like Inuit or “Afghans”, and bizarre ideas like splitting the Teutons, not once were the 3K considered…
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That’s a big fallacy but people keep using it.
Who are more likely to have the incentive to buy every DLC they make? Those who actively discuss the game on forums, follow its news on the official media, watch streamers, leave long and sincere reviews on steam, and speculate before anything official drops. They will be the first group of people to access the DLCs.
I can do the comparison: there are games in my steam library that I’ve shelved for years. I only realize their existence when some DLC news pop out, and most of the time I even missed those news. Now what about the games that I never bought or knew?
If you really want to reach the “new audience”, you need a massive marketing campaign, like employing human-bots (oh maybe they already started that) and ad bombing. Otherwise how would your target “new audience”know the existence of your game in the first place? And good luck getting a return from those investments.