# Antilles Map **URL:** \ **Category:** III - Discussion\ **Created:** [December 9, 2021, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/antilles-map/188499 "2021-12-09T04:15:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![M00Z1LLA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/m00z1lla/32/104042_2.png) [@M00Z1LLA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/M00Z1LLA)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/antilles-map/188499/1 "2021-12-09T04:15:57Z")
# Antilles Immense riches can be made from the plantations of the West Indian Archipelago. These islands are worth much more than [a few acres of snow](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_few_acres_of_snow). The multitude of islands provides a haven for pirates and smugglers who will need to be suppressed to gain full control of the region’s trade. **Settlements** - Caribs, [**Maroons**](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/maroons-as-a-minor-faction/175878) **Trade Route** - Sea route down the center. Capturable route around periphery guarded by pirates **Features** - Separate starting islands connected by a chokepoint of shallows enabling land invasions ![Antilles](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/4/5/45532025badee79da08b4a05872cc16f51b42918.png) With a submerged but crossable land connection, this map could still be played without taking water, eliminating one of the disliked parts of Caribbean. It would also introduce water trade routes and capturable routes to maps of the Americas. This map could be further improved with the ability of small boats to cross shallow water and travel between the islands more easily. > [@Fishing Boats, Canoes, and Catamarans should be able to cross shallows](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/fishing-boats-canoes-and-catamarans-should-be-able-to-cross-shallows/181578): > > There are several maps like Northwest Territory and Nile Valley with tiny pockets of fish on the edges of the map that aren’t ever worth making a dock in to access. Even if you do, your boats are stuck and completely useless even when there’s still more fish downriver. Small boats like fishing boats and the ones obtained from minor allies should be able to cross these shallow waters. This would allow more interaction between land and water with land units being able to take out fishing boats an… ## Alternate Forms ![Antilles Alternates](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/1/c/1cb47a368bf42e9730bae2e3be1945cefbdf7dbf.png) Secondary islands enlarged to accommodate more players. Could have more islands chained to the starting 4 for 3vs3 or 4vs4 configurations. A small central island with larger islands extending as spokes would provide a more fair start for odd number FFAs. ## Location ![Americas Map](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/5/9/593b234baf4b699e525cf92303327d243cc09286.jpeg) ## More Maps > [@Mosquito Coast & Mosquito Coast LOST Maps](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/mosquito-coast-mosquito-coast-lost-maps/184459): > > Mosquito Coast The Mosquito Coast is about as harsh as it sounds. Swampy terrain that can’t be built on surrounds your starting location and pirates guard their smuggling routes along the coast. Dense forests and hostile treasures fill the interior. Settlements - Maya, Zapotec, [Maroons](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/maroons-as-a-minor-faction/175878) Trade Route - Capturable but guarded by pirates. The island tradepost could even be guarded by a ship. Mosquito Coast LOST A LOST version of this map would be an excellent historical refere… > [@New Arctic Maps](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-arctic-maps/177083): > > The far north has a ton of potential and could be broken into several maps like what has been done to the Amazon. 3 new maps of Keewatin, Ungava, Northwest Passage, and a rework of Arctic Territories could provide this. These maps were designed to compliment fishing bonuses provided by an [Inuit](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/inuit-as-a-minor-faction/176644) minor civilization and promote interplay between land/ice and water. Keewatin Settlements - Inuit, Cree Fauna - Moose & Caribou on land, Seals on ice Trade Route - Two routes moving goods by dogsled. … ---
**Author:** ![Konahrik1140](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/konahrik1140/32/112328_2.png) [@Konahrik1140](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Konahrik1140)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/antilles-map/188499/2 "2021-12-09T04:22:32Z")
Excelente trabajo. Espero que los desarrolladores lo vean y lo implementen al juego 😄 ---
**Author:** ![DonHabsburg](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/donhabsburg/32/103997_2.png) [@DonHabsburg](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/DonHabsburg)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 4:27am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/antilles-map/188499/3 "2021-12-09T04:27:49Z")
Wonderful idea, the entire Caribbean was an important conflict zone, and I always want to see more maps covering anywhere. ---
**Author:** ![RatcicleFan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ratciclefan/32/115119_2.png) [@RatcicleFan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/RatcicleFan)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/antilles-map/188499/4 "2021-12-09T10:26:14Z")
Wait wtf Isn’t Patagonia just a small part of Argentina? Why does it cover most of Argentina on that map? lol About your map idea, it’s cool ---
**Author:** ![M00Z1LLA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/m00z1lla/32/104042_2.png) [@M00Z1LLA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/M00Z1LLA)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/antilles-map/188499/5 "2021-12-09T13:25:59Z")
No, it can refer to pretty much the entire southern region of the continent. The Patagonia region on the in game map is actually more accurate than most regions. ---
**Author:** ![OriginalKnot717](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/originalknot717/32/129190_2.png) [@OriginalKnot717](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/OriginalKnot717)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/antilles-map/188499/6 "2021-12-09T18:11:42Z")
That’s a cool looking map, I’m always pleased to see new water maps. ---
**Author:** ![M00Z1LLA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/m00z1lla/32/104042_2.png) [@M00Z1LLA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/M00Z1LLA)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 3:50am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/antilles-map/188499/7 "2021-12-10T03:50:36Z")
Fun fact - After the Seven Years War, the French traded all of Canada for a single island in the Lesser Antilles > France gained the return of its sugar colony, Guadeloupe, **which it considered more valuable than Canada**. Voltaire had notoriously dismissed Acadia(Canada) as _quelques arpents de neige_ (a few acres of snow) > **[Treaty of Paris (1763) | Exchange of territories](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Paris_(1763)#Exchange_of_territories)** > > During the war, Great Britain had conquered the French colonies of Canada, Guadeloupe, Saint Lucia, Martinique, Dominica, Grenada, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, and Tobago, the French "factoreries" (trading posts) in India, the slave-trading station at Gorée, the Sénégal River and its settlements, and the Spanish colonies of Manila (in the Philippines) and Havana (in Cuba). France had captured Minorca and British trading posts in Sumatra, while Spain had captured the border fortress of Almeid... ---
**Author:** ![SimilarOwl0320](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/similarowl0320/32/67342_2.png) [@SimilarOwl0320](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/SimilarOwl0320)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/antilles-map/188499/8 "2021-12-13T22:37:46Z")
I like your creativity for maps and although islands maps are not my cup of taste, this one is still much better than a bunch of islands/archipelago maps present throughout all AOEs. Edit: Ok. I would definitely play this map. Have you ever thought about redesign a few old maps? ---
**Author:** ![M00Z1LLA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/m00z1lla/32/104042_2.png) [@M00Z1LLA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/M00Z1LLA)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/antilles-map/188499/9 "2021-12-14T18:58:03Z")
I’ve mostly been designing them in conjunction with other ideas to help justify them. For example, an Inuit minor faction is not going to be viable without maps to put them on. This one was more to fill out the new territories I included in the loading screen map I made. For changing old ones I’d rather just stick to fixing glaring errors like Zapotecs in the Amazon or Moose in Arctic Territories but those are pretty minor changes. Arctic Territories is probably the only one I’d rework (even more so than in my Arctic Maps post) since I just really don’t like the design. I’ve been taking inspiration from the old maps and trying to design new ones that avoid their drawbacks. The next one I’ll post is basically a cross between Orinoco and Amazon which hopefully wouldn’t be as much of a slog fest as either of those two. ---
**Author:** ![OperaticShip743](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/operaticship743/32/104612_2.png) [@OperaticShip743](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/OperaticShip743)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/antilles-map/188499/10 "2021-12-15T00:06:15Z")
> [@M00Z1LLA](#): > > Arctic Territories I like the design, but I think it should have ocean and fishing to the south. Also some natives. > [@M00Z1LLA](#): > > Amazon I would like you to capture this idea that I have of the Amazon, the Caribbean and the Spanish. > [@Renewals to the original content and its first two expansions](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/renewals-to-the-original-content-and-its-first-two-expansions/171053/44): > > Yes. I proposed that there could be 2 trade routes of this type and each one travels in different directions, and they are on a different river bank. The players would start on the same side of the river with two native villages nearby and on the other side there will be 2 more native villages with many more treasures and natural resources with small ponds. > [@Renewals to the original content and its first two expansions](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/renewals-to-the-original-content-and-its-first-two-expansions/171053/27): > > If in the future they include maritime trade routes in American maps, the most obvious maps for this would be the Caribbean and Hispaniola. The trade route of the Caribbean map goes from being a trabois to a merchant ship. On the map Hispaniola would be something new, but if this is included it would cease to be a boring map that people almost always avoided playing. In addition there could also be treasures in the water. The Amazon map could have a new version where the players start on the … ---
**Author:** ![M00Z1LLA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/m00z1lla/32/104042_2.png) [@M00Z1LLA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/M00Z1LLA)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 1:30am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/antilles-map/188499/11 "2021-12-15T01:30:03Z")
I did make those changes to _Arctic Territories_ for my Inuit suggestion. And I proposed it be renamed to _Septentrion_ which is a common label for unknown northern regions in old maps. ![Septentrion](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/e/2/e233bc69dda8b1557cc16ae556d67051841c4d59.png) Maritime trade routes in American maps is the next suggestion I’m working on. But more specifically, coastal and riverine routes. They could go from Canoe → Large Dugout Canoe → Paddlewheel Riverboat like what is pictured in the images below. ![image](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/4/e/4e3b6c65ba9a33559ad145ea0979d8e87efddd8a.jpeg) ![image](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/1/8/189b98356ad221eb6c8a647fa0630d864fb30ebb.jpeg) ![image](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/f/9/f90623f11ecc725ca7819c3d38dcb02fa4237927.jpeg) The maps I have done so far are actually quite similar to your idea for _Amazon_ but split into two maps. ![Laurentia](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/9/f/9ff11725c99e228c9a6206f8dbe18d3f5832c168.png) ![Ohio](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/1/3/130273e6e370046611bc3e6ab0b93adb2a9c8a2a.png) The _Antilles_ map in this suggestion and _Mosquito Coast_ map were also ways to add oceanic trade routes to the Americas without needing to alter _Caribbean_ and _Hispaniola_ for those who enjoy them. _Hispaniola_ is a weaker one though and could probably benefit from at least adding water treasures and new natives like Maroons. ---
**Author:** ![Jonasnee8581](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/jonasnee8581/32/72521_2.png) [@Jonasnee8581](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Jonasnee8581)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/antilles-map/188499/12 "2021-12-15T01:31:25Z")
so im wondering, how do you make these maps? like what tool do you use? ---
**Author:** ![M00Z1LLA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/m00z1lla/32/104042_2.png) [@M00Z1LLA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/M00Z1LLA)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/antilles-map/188499/13 "2021-12-15T01:37:18Z")
Inkscape It’s the free equivalent to Adobe Illustrator. > **[Download Inkscape 1.1.1 | Inkscape](https://inkscape.org/release/inkscape-1.1.1/)** ---
**Author:** ![OperaticShip743](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/operaticship743/32/104612_2.png) [@OperaticShip743](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/OperaticShip743)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 3:03am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/antilles-map/188499/14 "2021-12-17T03:03:33Z")
[https://aoe3.heavengames.com/downloads/showfile.php?fileid=1448&ci=e9470179d1a86e7b944f862b4aad311cYToxOntpOjA7YToyOntpOjA7czoxNDoiU2VhcmNoIFJlc3VsdHMiO2k6MTtzOjM4OiJsaXN0ZXIucGhwP3N0YXJ0PTAmYW1wO3NlYXJjaD1taXNzb3VyaSI7fX0=](https://aoe3.heavengames.com/downloads/showfile.php?fileid=1448&ci=e9470179d1a86e7b944f862b4aad311cYToxOntpOjA7YToyOntpOjA7czoxNDoiU2VhcmNoIFJlc3VsdHMiO2k6MTtzOjM4OiJsaXN0ZXIucGhwP3N0YXJ0PTAmYW1wO3NlYXJjaD1taXNzb3VyaSI7fX0=) I would like this map for the treatise game. ---
**Author:** ![M00Z1LLA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/m00z1lla/32/104042_2.png) [@M00Z1LLA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/M00Z1LLA)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 3:51am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/antilles-map/188499/15 "2021-12-17T03:51:53Z")
Something like that could work for the _Athabasca_ region I included in this map: ![Americas Map](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/5/9/593b234baf4b699e525cf92303327d243cc09286.jpeg) Do you know if that map download will work on DE, or will the file only work with legacy? ---
**Author:** ![RatcicleFan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ratciclefan/32/115119_2.png) [@RatcicleFan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/RatcicleFan)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 4:49am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/antilles-map/188499/16 "2021-12-17T04:49:13Z")
I’d really like a map based on the Cerrado region ---
**Author:** ![OperaticShip743](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/operaticship743/32/104612_2.png) [@OperaticShip743](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/OperaticShip743)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/antilles-map/188499/17 "2021-12-17T11:02:29Z")
> [@M00Z1LLA](#): > > Do you know if that map download will work on DE, or will the file only work with legacy? I don’t know, but I think I could execute. I don’t know what the folder is either. ---
**Author:** ![M00Z1LLA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/m00z1lla/32/104042_2.png) [@M00Z1LLA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/M00Z1LLA)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/antilles-map/188499/18 "2021-12-20T06:37:51Z")
![Oregon](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/c/4/c49c761a4093dad5d1c4bbb3a801236ac7c0649c.png) Oregon will be the next one for maps with river trade routes. ---
**Author:** ![OperaticShip743](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/operaticship743/32/104612_2.png) [@OperaticShip743](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/OperaticShip743)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/antilles-map/188499/19 "2021-12-22T19:01:45Z")
Could you make a tutorial on how to use it? I would like to propose a redesign for ‘Caribbean’ and ‘Hispaniola’. Also a new version for great lakes that is not always a circular map, and there are natives of Cree and Cheyenne at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![M00Z1LLA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/m00z1lla/32/104042_2.png) [@M00Z1LLA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/M00Z1LLA)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2021, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/antilles-map/188499/20 "2021-12-22T19:19:47Z")
This guy has a bunch of good tutorials on it. This one might cover the basics of what you’d need: [![](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/6/b/6b113361fc27d0c7ccc7a5c11fe00b766201154c.jpeg "Inkscape Tutorial: Rocket Logo Design") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jZ-5CrblfA)