Any historical examples of castle drops?

This is a different type of post, I know. I would be posting this on Reddit, except I don’t have Reddit anymore, and I don’t have Facebook either, so this is the best I got.

Outside of Japan, are there any historical examples of people very quickly building fortresses in enemy territory to deny them access to things? Because that would be really cool if so, and I feel like there has to be at least one example outside of Japan.

The ancient Romans regularly did this kind of thing, so I really wouldn’t be surprised if it was done by medieval powers as well. Maybe in the Crusades? I think Edward Longshanks may have done something a bit like this when invading Scotland as well.


I can’t remember well but I Saw a case in France of siège were the attack build a stronghold right in front of the valley of the castle besiege.

Oh, that’s neat! Do you have any materials I can read about this?

It’s kind of just standard Roman field tactics, building Forts everywhere. There’s Julius Caesar’s “De Bello Gallico” though. The Siege of Alesia is particularly interesting, probably lots of historical stuff you can find on that. It’s not quite dropping a Castle, but it was a remarkable display of Roman tactics and engineering prowess.


Oh, that’s very interesting! Thanks for the info.

Wasn’t it Wales rather than Scotland?


Good point, it probably was. I’m mostly remembering it from the Longshanks campaign, which I played a while ago.

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William the Conqueror did it when he invaded England. It’s a bit unclear (at least from what I’ve read) whether the castle was at Hastings, Pevensey, or both. I think it’s depicted on the Bayeux Tapestry, but I can’t find a picture right now (on my phone, not a computer, so it’s a bit awkward).

Yes, but I’m not sure it counts as “castle dropping”. My understanding is that, after Longshanks had defeated the Welsh in battle, he built castles (e.g. at Conwy, Harlech, Caernarfon) to help make English rule there permanent.

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There is an official term for it:
Counter Castle or Siege Castle, a fortification build to help attack another fortification.

So Castles were not dropped into an enemy city, like it happens in AoE2 but they were actually build within Trebuchet range or enemy castles sometimes.

For example the Ottomans build castles around Constantinople before they captured it.

But you have to be aware that most castles, offensive of not were actually made of wood.
It’s just that they either for upgraded to stone later or fell into disrepair, so the only castles that remain standing are the ones made of stone.

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Constantinople also immediately came to my mind.

The Turks dropped Rumelihisarı in 1452 near Constantinople, preparing for its siege the next year.

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It is also called the Sunomata Ichiya Castle (墨俁一夜城), due to the legend that it was built in one night.

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Nex question is: any historical examples of Daut castles?

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I want to know if there were any historical examples of sheep scouting! :joy::joy::joy:

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No sheep, but there was ofcourse a famous occurrence where a couple of geese scouted a Celtic attack on Rome.

During the sack of Rome in 390 BC a group of Celts attempted a nighttime suprise attack by climbing the wall onto the Roman Akropolis (the last part of the city holding out after the Celts sacked the city below). They were spotted by a group of geese however, who started making lots of noise, thus waking the defenders and alerting them to the attack and saving Rome from being destroyed.


The Siege of Alesia like somebody else mentioned is a perfect example. I remember reading about it and vividly remember before I even new what castle drops is.

Romans couldn’t take the fortress of Vercingetorix so Caesar ordered to build forts around the entire town. The Gauls even sent cavalry raids to deny the castle drops, in the end Romans took the fort and Vercingetorix was imprisoned and killed.

There is even a scenario in the original ROR campaigns about it.


Celt laming bonus was bugged by then

hahaha source?
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