# Battle Elephants for the Indians **URL:** \ **Category:** II - Discussion\ **Created:** [February 28, 2020, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/battle-elephants-for-the-indians/72614 "2020-02-28T02:22:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![TheDarkness3673](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/thedarkness3673/32/29249_2.png) [@TheDarkness3673](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/TheDarkness3673)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/battle-elephants-for-the-indians/72614/906 "2020-05-02T13:04:11Z")
What if indians lost both Imp and heavy camel and got the elephant? edit: maybe even halbs So they become elephant and gunpowder civ. lose the PA for camels. (and imp. camels can be given to maybe saracens wich replaces theyr castel tech for HP buff for camels) ---
**Author:** ![JonOli12](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/jonoli12/32/50441_2.png) [@JonOli12](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/JonOli12)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/battle-elephants-for-the-indians/72614/907 "2020-05-02T13:31:45Z")
> [@SirWiedreich](#): > > #Xenophobia. This African Samurai would like to have a word with you: After his master fell from power, his next master called him a beast an exiled him from the country. Do not make the mistake taht, just because one warlord was more open to foreigners, that the whole country would accept african yojimbos (yasuke as not a samurai, he was a bodyguard). Before the 20th century, all surviving cultures were extremely xenophobic. ---
**Author:** ![MatCauthon3](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/matcauthon3/32/29474_2.png) [@MatCauthon3](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/MatCauthon3)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/battle-elephants-for-the-indians/72614/908 "2020-05-02T16:26:53Z")
> [@GiggyMoss367211](#): > > What if indians lost both Imp and heavy camel and got the elephant? > > edit: maybe even halbs > > So they become elephant and gunpowder civ. lose the PA for camels. > (and imp. camels can be given to maybe saracens wich replaces theyr castel tech for HP buff for camels) you’d literally have to completely redesign indians. ---
**Author:** ![TheDarkness3673](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/thedarkness3673/32/29249_2.png) [@TheDarkness3673](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/TheDarkness3673)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/battle-elephants-for-the-indians/72614/909 "2020-05-02T16:31:20Z")
yeah i know but that is what most players whant 😃 ---
**Author:** ![MatCauthon3](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/matcauthon3/32/29474_2.png) [@MatCauthon3](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/MatCauthon3)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/battle-elephants-for-the-indians/72614/910 "2020-05-02T16:35:06Z")
i’m going to ask you to prove that is what most people want. you have no clue if most people want it. most people don’t come to the various forums. ---
**Author:** ![UpmostRook9474](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/upmostrook9474/32/47514_2.png) [@UpmostRook9474](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/UpmostRook9474)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/battle-elephants-for-the-indians/72614/911 "2020-05-02T16:36:04Z")
> [@MatCauthon3](#): > > you’d literally have to completely redesign indians. At least I will welcome the redesigning of Indians if the new version can keep both the historical correct and balance. ---
**Author:** ![MatCauthon3](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/matcauthon3/32/29474_2.png) [@MatCauthon3](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/MatCauthon3)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/battle-elephants-for-the-indians/72614/912 "2020-05-02T16:37:00Z")
> [@UpmostRook9474](#): > > I will welcome the redesigning of Indians if the new version can keep both the historical correct and balance. yeah? how does the 95% of the community that doesn’t come to the various forums feel about redesigning an entire civilization completely out of the blue? ---
**Author:** ![Juggernaut8704](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/juggernaut8704/32/203886_2.png) [@Juggernaut8704](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Juggernaut8704)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/battle-elephants-for-the-indians/72614/913 "2020-05-02T16:37:49Z")
> [@MatCauthon3](#): > > 95% of the community that doesn’t come to the various forums where did you get that statistics? 95% ---
**Author:** ![MatCauthon3](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/matcauthon3/32/29474_2.png) [@MatCauthon3](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/MatCauthon3)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/battle-elephants-for-the-indians/72614/914 "2020-05-02T16:39:00Z")
> [@Juggernaut8704](#): > > where did you get that statistics? its a rough estimate but the fact is that steam alone has over 2 million users. how many active users do you see on the forums? a few hundred? maybe a thousand or two if you include reddit? ---
**Author:** ![UpmostRook9474](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/upmostrook9474/32/47514_2.png) [@UpmostRook9474](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/UpmostRook9474)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/battle-elephants-for-the-indians/72614/915 "2020-05-02T16:39:42Z")
> [@MatCauthon3](#): > > yeah? how does the 95% of the community that doesn’t come to the various forums feel about redesigning an entire civilization completely out of the blue? So I said “At least I will”. Everyone can have their own opinion and it is my voice, my opinion. That’s all. ---
**Author:** ![Juggernaut8704](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/juggernaut8704/32/203886_2.png) [@Juggernaut8704](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Juggernaut8704)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/battle-elephants-for-the-indians/72614/916 "2020-05-02T16:44:41Z")
It is much easier to get people to unite against any new idea while it is much more harder to get like minded people together to support a new idea that proposes any change. It is natural. People who want to bring the change is much more larger than it looks like. It is just so that they don’t come up with the idea in the same time. They posted on different times (not at the same time) and got inactive over time since they couldn’t wait long enough to gather support. The thing that this single idea of changing Indians is poping up again and again is a proof of the discontent. ---
**Author:** ![MatCauthon3](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/matcauthon3/32/29474_2.png) [@MatCauthon3](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/MatCauthon3)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/battle-elephants-for-the-indians/72614/917 "2020-05-02T16:46:15Z")
> [@Juggernaut8704](#): > > It is much easier to get people to unite against any new idea while it is much more harder to get like minded people together to support a new idea that proposes any change. It is natural. People who want to bring the change is much more larger than it looks like. It is just so that they don’t come up with the idea in the same time. They posted on different times (not at the same time) and got inactive over time since they couldn’t wait long enough to gather support. yeah its been posted multiple times. by the same group of people. people like you and parthnan are always active in those. nothing proves to me that you guys have this massive following you seem to think you do. ---
**Author:** ![Juggernaut8704](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/juggernaut8704/32/203886_2.png) [@Juggernaut8704](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Juggernaut8704)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/battle-elephants-for-the-indians/72614/918 "2020-05-02T16:47:09Z")
we are just recently active. go read all the different threads on steam and reddit by other authors. why are you ignoring them? @Parthnan and me don’t have the exact same idea. ---
**Author:** ![MatCauthon3](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/matcauthon3/32/29474_2.png) [@MatCauthon3](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/MatCauthon3)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/battle-elephants-for-the-indians/72614/919 "2020-05-02T16:49:45Z")
> [@Juggernaut8704](#): > > we are just recently active. go read all the different forums on steam and reddit by other authors. why are you ignoring them? because even if you count reddit you’re talking about a couple thousand active people at most, as opposed to the the few million people playing the game. no matter how you slice it, you are a MINORITY. a MASSIVE ONE. > [@Juggernaut8704](#): > > @Parthnan and me don’t have the exact same idea. and yet you’re both pro rework. nothing i have seen shows me that you have this supposed majority in favor of a rework. ---
**Author:** ![Juggernaut8704](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/juggernaut8704/32/203886_2.png) [@Juggernaut8704](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Juggernaut8704)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/battle-elephants-for-the-indians/72614/920 "2020-05-02T16:50:28Z")
> [@MatCauthon3](#): > > both pro rework. what do you mean by that? now you have taken personal attacks as the means of proving your point? ---
**Author:** ![MatCauthon3](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/matcauthon3/32/29474_2.png) [@MatCauthon3](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/MatCauthon3)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/battle-elephants-for-the-indians/72614/921 "2020-05-02T16:51:11Z")
> [@Juggernaut8704](#): > > what do you mean by that? you want indians to have elephants. which would require a complete rework of the civilization. ---
**Author:** ![Juggernaut8704](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/juggernaut8704/32/203886_2.png) [@Juggernaut8704](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Juggernaut8704)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/battle-elephants-for-the-indians/72614/922 "2020-05-02T16:52:25Z")
> [@MatCauthon3](#): > > you want indians to have elephants. which would require a complete rework of the civilization. this proves you didn’t read my other threads. I want to move imperial camels to saracens and give any other heavy cavalry to indians. and who are you to dictate what i want? ---
**Author:** ![TheDarkness3673](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/thedarkness3673/32/29249_2.png) [@TheDarkness3673](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/TheDarkness3673)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/battle-elephants-for-the-indians/72614/923 "2020-05-02T16:52:33Z")
Why consider people who dont come and talk to any side to be pro or con. I have seen a lot of people request it and that is all we can go on. I personaly dont care either way ---
**Author:** ![MatCauthon3](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/matcauthon3/32/29474_2.png) [@MatCauthon3](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/MatCauthon3)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/battle-elephants-for-the-indians/72614/924 "2020-05-02T16:54:15Z")
because you’d be completely changing an entire civ on them. for what reason? just because they don’t come to the forums doesn’t mean their opinion shouldn’t be considered. you know who comes to the forums? outside of those who want to discuss stuff? those who have a problem with stuff. you know who doesn’t? those who are fine with things the way they are. they don’t come here because they don’t have a reason too. but all of a sudden you change stuff on them and they come. if we’re going to make them more historically accurate are we going to change every other historical inaccuracy? you know like celts having woad raiders and franks throwing axeman? what about every other historical inaccuracy? ---
**Author:** ![Juggernaut8704](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/juggernaut8704/32/203886_2.png) [@Juggernaut8704](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Juggernaut8704)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/battle-elephants-for-the-indians/72614/925 "2020-05-02T16:55:30Z")
> [@MatCauthon3](#): > > what about every other historical inaccuracy? open a separate thread to discuss that. don’t go off topic [Previous page](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/battle-elephants-for-the-indians/72614.md?page=17) [Next page](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/battle-elephants-for-the-indians/72614.md?page=19)