Well it matter, and -50% on 2 cavalry, 2 infantry and 2 archer units of upgrades are definitely OP to me, even -33 is too much too.
Maybe, maybe, they could have -50% on the upgrades of just one unit line, like Xbows.
That’s why having the possibility to build them on castle age for less pop would help, you spend more than 14 minutes in castle age to reach imp. And it would be difficult to bring them down with only BR.
Yes I though about it too, and I reached the same conclusion, not so much for the resources, but more for the time saved. It would be on a completely another level of the bulgarians’ bonus.
I’m not sold on -50% too.
However, a general buff for the portos would be to give them access to the camel line, to better defend until imp.
Yes but they had a lot of african and east asian colonies in the time period covered by aoe2, so it could be fine, and among all units, camels, with their cost more heavy toward gold than food, would be the one that could benefit the most from the gold discount (55f 51g instead of 60g).
Also if we to choose gameplay over historical accuracy we have to make some compromises here and there.
At the time of AoE2, African were more trade partners and client kingdoms, and our only permanent colonial government was in Malasya and India (Viceroyship), as far as I know.
Discounted Camels is also the Byzantines bonus, so we would be trampling all over them.
250G and 250S is such a heavy investment in the castle age, especially it needs 14 minutes to turn its a little bit influence positive, quite slower than other investments. Then everybody will still take the stone to build TC and the castle since they are clearly more efficient in the battle or gather the resources than Feitoria. Finally, making Feitoria available in the castle age become meaningless totally because it is just not worth it.
Definitely better and smarter choice than the castle age Feitoria.
Would make more sense to give Ports Eastern Swordsmen or any other Asian Editor unit, then. Ports never fielded Camels, as we never ventured too far from the shore.
We almost did not even field Cavalry, much less Camelry, which is only useful for long, contiguous land empires, with a lot of arid terrain.
A bonus to Pikemen would not only be more accurate, but also make more sense in gameplay, since Ports already have way too many units affected by a single discount bonus.
So, in another discussion you stated that gameplay should prevail over historical accuracy, but here you are against giving portos camels because it’s not historically accurate (and by the way, maybe it’s that accurate, but it’s plausible).
Then you stated that they already have too many units affected by their gold disc. when earlier you propose to buff it.
Dude make up you mind.
Then propose it, we are all here to talk about potential bonus.
With +21 vs cavalry I don’t see the point, also there are already 2 civ (aztec and burmese) who got this bonus on all infantry units.
That it’s the goth speciality.
Camels can force engagements, pikes can’t.
Listen, I’m not saying that camels solve every portos’ problems, but it’s a buff, and they desperately need some buff.
Goths specialty is for all Infantry, not pikes. Evcen then, I am against quicker spamming Trash.
Attack Speed is sifferent than more Damage, which is what Aztecs and Burmese do.
Ports use Ranged units to force engagements. camels would also do nothing for Ports, they hardle ever use even Cavaliers, which are better than Camels at everything, except against Camels.
Until you research ballistics, you struggle to force engagements with range units to, and even so, it’s still more possibilities, they would make the civ more flexible in general.
They don’t even need heavy camels, castle age’s camels are more than enough for helping them.
Free upgrade (so faster) it’s etiopians speciality, they had free halbs upgrade too, but they remove it since it was too OP.
Onestly I can’t see how improving pikes line would help them, yes they could give them squires, but other than that…
A discount on the tech could work, but free/istant upgrades on archers would be too much considering how they dominate the game now, it would be less OP free ballistics.
Or maybe tank halbs. Give them something like hp bonus would be interesting but do the portuguese really need a buff in imperial age? I mean we need to specify whats actually the bad thing about portuguese. They are weak military? They have no eco bonus? I mean halbadiers buff sounds great but is that really necessary?