# Can't send organ guns on Christopher de Gama's historical battle since change to portuguese card

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**Category:** III - Report a Bug\
**Created:** [December 18, 2022, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/cant-send-organ-guns-on-christopher-de-gamas-historical-battle-since-change-to-portuguese-card/221153 "2022-12-18T19:19:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![EntombedCurve02](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/entombedcurve02/32/80405_2.png) [@EntombedCurve02](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/EntombedCurve02)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/cant-send-organ-guns-on-christopher-de-gamas-historical-battle-since-change-to-portuguese-card/221153/1 "2022-12-18T19:19:15Z")

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### ▶ GAME INFORMATION

👇 _These details are CRITICAL; DO NOT skip them or your issue may not be reviewed._

- **GAME BUILD #:** 100.13.29985.0
- **GAME PLATFORM:** Steam
- **OPERATING SYSTEM:** Windows 10

### ▶ ISSUE EXPERIENCED

👇 _DESCRIBE THE ISSUE IN DETAIL (below). LIMIT TO ONE BUG PER THREAD._  
With the new changes to the portuguese cards, the old 2 organ gun shipment has changed to 3 organ on the Christopher de Gama’s scernario, but the added cost of 200 coin makes it impossible to send it, as you don’t get resources nor are there any treasure or hero to collect them.

### ▶ FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

👇 _How often does the issue occur? CHOSE ONE; DELETE THE REST!_

- **100%** of the time / matches I play (ALWAYS)

### ▶ ############ STEPS

👇 _List CLEAR and DETAILED STEPS we can take to reproduce the issue ourselves… Be descriptive!_

Here’s the steps to reproduce the issue:

1. Open Christopher de Gama’s scenario
2. You can already see the gold cost from the beginning, but liberate villages to get to age 3 and try to send them
3. No coin

### ▶ EXPECTED RESULT

👇 _What was SUPPOSED to happen if the bug you encountered were not present?_  
The card should be changed only for this scenario to the old 2 organ guns one, could be 3 as it is a one time shipment (like the musk, but why is that only once?), but with no coin cost.

### ▶ IMAGE

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### ▶ GAME FILES (SAVE / RECORDING)

👇 _Attach a SAVE GAME (.aoe3Ysav) or GAME RECORDING (.aoe3Yrec) of the match where you encountered the issue. Link it below if using an external file service._

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**Author:** ![Romanophile](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/romanophile/32/73917_2.png) [@Romanophile](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Romanophile)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2023, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/cant-send-organ-guns-on-christopher-de-gamas-historical-battle-since-change-to-portuguese-card/221153/3 "2023-05-20T00:02:55Z")

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I know that this is an old thread, but as of update 14.3853 this bug is still present. (It’s particularly irritating given how obnoxiously difficult this scenario is on Hard mode.)

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**Author:** ![EricTheRed283](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ericthered283/32/178633_2.png) [@EricTheRed283](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/EricTheRed283)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 2:43am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/cant-send-organ-guns-on-christopher-de-gamas-historical-battle-since-change-to-portuguese-card/221153/4 "2023-12-12T02:43:35Z")

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This is still a issue of being unable to send Organ Guns in this historic battle it is really frustrating especially when playing co-op with someone who is new to the game or this mission.

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**Author:** ![TheLiberator236](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/theliberator236/32/179247_2.png) [@TheLiberator236](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/TheLiberator236)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/cant-send-organ-guns-on-christopher-de-gamas-historical-battle-since-change-to-portuguese-card/221153/5 "2023-12-12T15:55:39Z")

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@tilanus Hello  
Another bug that must be addressed please!

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**Author:** ![EricTheRed283](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ericthered283/32/178633_2.png) [@EricTheRed283](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/EricTheRed283)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/cant-send-organ-guns-on-christopher-de-gamas-historical-battle-since-change-to-portuguese-card/221153/6 "2024-02-01T14:49:48Z")

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I just finished a game Co-Op game of this historic Battle that I hosted and while it no longer cost coin to send the Organ Gun shipments they didn’t pop out of any Outpost so the shipment is bugged out with not receiving the units when you should. The new update just made things worse for this historic battle.

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**Author:** ![Thunderforge8](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/thunderforge8/32/73678_2.png) [@Thunderforge8](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Thunderforge8)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 3:22am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/cant-send-organ-guns-on-christopher-de-gamas-historical-battle-since-change-to-portuguese-card/221153/7 "2024-03-14T03:22:21Z")

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Still an issue in 100.15.59076.0. In both the single player and the co-op version, the Organ Guns card doesn’t do anything.

 ![20240313200902_1](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/0/2/022a087af24dccacc5d900bd269cfa96142d0665.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Dalas8](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/dalas8/32/38245_2.png) [@Dalas8](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Dalas8)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/cant-send-organ-guns-on-christopher-de-gamas-historical-battle-since-change-to-portuguese-card/221153/8 "2025-06-03T14:50:13Z")

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Still not fixed, clicking the card doesn’t do anything

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**Author:** ![CanineCrown7153](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/caninecrown7153/32/107446_2.png) [@CanineCrown7153](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/CanineCrown7153)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/cant-send-organ-guns-on-christopher-de-gamas-historical-battle-since-change-to-portuguese-card/221153/9 "2025-06-03T15:13:09Z")

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The worst is that that a fix is super easy, barely an incovenience

> [@Historical Battles Portuguese Homecity](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/historical-battles-portuguese-homecity/275180):
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> Hi! Even though this is a super easy fix, given the state of the game, they probably won’t fix it The deck of both these files HomecityHB06.xml HomecityHB06p1.xml have the following card DEHCSPCOrganGun2xIcon This tech doesn’t ship Organ Guns \<tech name="DEHCSPCOrganGun2xIcon" type="Normal"\> \<dbid\>7996\</dbid\> \<status\>UNOBTAINABLE\</status\> \<icon\>resources\images\icons\techs\spc\hc\_2x\_organ\_gun.png\</icon\> \<flag\>HomeCity\</flag\> \</tech\> I can even fix it for you, so you jus…

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**Author:** ![vividlyplain](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/vividlyplain/32/177091_2.png) [@vividlyplain](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/vividlyplain)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/cant-send-organ-guns-on-christopher-de-gamas-historical-battle-since-change-to-portuguese-card/221153/10 "2025-06-06T13:05:46Z")

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Inconvenience isn’t the word I’d be using here.

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**Author:** ![Thunderforge8](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/thunderforge8/32/73678_2.png) [@Thunderforge8](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Thunderforge8)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2026, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/cant-send-organ-guns-on-christopher-de-gamas-historical-battle-since-change-to-portuguese-card/221153/11 "2026-07-26T23:08:40Z")

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Good news: this seems to be fixed in 201.19.17743.0 (the Baltic Powers open beta).

 ![202607~2](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/1/1/11e0f6c29f1f501186dc36e15625fae68a30e96b.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![IkoKnight](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ikoknight/32/188557_2.png) [@IkoKnight](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/IkoKnight)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/cant-send-organ-guns-on-christopher-de-gamas-historical-battle-since-change-to-portuguese-card/221153/12 "2026-08-04T15:51:27Z")

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Happy to hear that, our teammates did a pass and fixed some bugs there

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**Author:** ![Thunderforge8](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/thunderforge8/32/73678_2.png) [@Thunderforge8](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Thunderforge8)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2026, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/cant-send-organ-guns-on-christopher-de-gamas-historical-battle-since-change-to-portuguese-card/221153/13 "2026-08-05T00:03:07Z")

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Thanks again for fixing this single player and co-op content! It really does mean a lot.

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**Author:** ![TheLiberator236](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/theliberator236/32/179247_2.png) [@TheLiberator236](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/TheLiberator236)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2026, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/cant-send-organ-guns-on-christopher-de-gamas-historical-battle-since-change-to-portuguese-card/221153/14 "2026-08-05T18:00:49Z")

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Thanks a lot devs!

This is pretty rewarding!
