Carbine Cavalry rant

Seriously this unit sucks and its stats scale TERRIBLY with veterancies. 10% ranged resist and 180 base hp is way too squishy and the Buffalo Soldiers card states a 25% damage increase which is completely worthless because it only translates to a 2.25 damage increase. They are a joke of a unit and if the USA has to throw them out there its because they have to kill enemy artillery which these guys barely accomplish and because Patriotism only affects USA units they’re literally your only lategame option (sending dragoons is dumb because they take too long to train, and USA has absolute garbage arty train times because Knox Artillery train is terrible, so culverins are basically out) USA finds itself with awful cavalry. For the love of hamburgers and guns please buff these poor guys. They dont even do more damage over a minute than jinetes or even regular dragoons when you realize their fire rate is mostly to compensate for the delay of shooting twice. Seriously these guys are TERRIBLE!

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Not true. The Castrametration equivalent card makes all Forts work 25% faster, which includes Legion units you unlock with cards.
Dragoons are always a bad call in, because you ill not have Cavalry Combat cards to buff them, the best Legion shipments are teh Uhlans and the Magyar Hussars.
Both of those can dispatch Artillery very easily, and benefit from an Age State option that improves your Hand Cavalry train time by a lot.

USA is about combo abuse, not singularly powerful units (which they still have, like State Militia, Regulars, Marines or Gatling Guns).

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None of that matters to my rant. I’m saying Carbine Cavalry suck. They’re trash. They’re a terrible unit. also the 25% bonus doesn’t make the magyars hussars/uhlans train that much faster. If you need units to kill artillery/cavalry fast you aren’t going to train those units because they take too long to train. That doesn’t matter though. My point is Carbine cavalry are trash. They’re below subpar they aren’t even a sidegrade. They’re outright worse. They die to things that would normally lose to dragoons in some cases and they die to other dragoons so you’d lose the “dragoon wars” if it came to that. Buffalo Soldiers card is a bait because it looks like a huge attack buff but its worthless because the damage Carbine cav do is worthless.

Also going Florida is a bait when Illinois is so good that going anything else is just vastly worse.

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They are not, tehy are really good, and you can get them in Age 2, with Lee’s Legion.

you do realize they aren’t the only civ with an early dragoons card right…

The other one is Portuguese, which just goes to show you how rare Early Dragoons are.
Portuguese also have a weak Age 2, while USA has a very strong Age 2, on the back of State Militia.

Carbine cavalry tried to be a copy of the Japanese yabusame cavalry archer, a dragoon with extra range, but of course japan has to have the best of everything so USA just got the worse version

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Carbine Cavalry and Yabusame are nothing alike. Yabusame are overly specialized. Which makes them useable. Carbine Cavalry are just bad.

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Exactly, yabusame is better in every way because it counters other things other than cavalry, like artillery, also it does ok vs musketeers.

All Cavalry Archers/Dragoon units counter Artillery.

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Maybe I didn’t specify well enough, I mean that they counter it the best because they have the same range as a strelet or an abus gun, it’s a mini culverin and a dragoon in 1, maybe the carbine cavalry should get a little more range too, USA in general has horrible cavalry because they lack cav combat, so maybe just giving them cav combat would make carbine cav useful.

It would have the unintended consequemce of supercharging their Uhlan and Magyar Hussar Legions too, which would be bad, since not only are those 2 very strong, but you do not even have to pay for upgrade costs.

You know what I just forgot? I forgot usa can get dragoon’s from a legion card, tbh with that legion card I think it’s fine that carbine cav are below average, they also have cowboys technically but those are hard to mass, but that dragoon legion actually sounds pretty good when combined with how OP state militia are

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Cowboys are not hard to mass at all, you just need the Dance Hall card, so they become pop-efficient. They also have 2 upgrades for stats, taht while expensive, do allow them to match even Ports Dragoons in efficiency.

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I’m probably going to try that out, that sounds pretty OP but I want to see it in practice before I decide I do remember one time a usa player use cowboys against me and they killed villagers really fast because of their special attack, we got Lakota bow rider 2.0 now

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Are you insane? They cost 3 pop after dance hall and deal 39 per hit if you go New York. Their ability is strong, 100 hit is a big snipe, but it isn’t exactly something you can mass. They’re technically “cheaper” in resources, but their pop efficiency. A base Imperial Dragoon hits for 46 with techs. Imperial Jinetes fully carded deal 52. Besides the snipe power, Cowboys are significantly worse in the late game. I’m talking about late game. Not Age 2/3.