I am going to do my best.
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honestly, I’ve just read the thread so far, and not answered before. Because I can’t say how doable is the design you suggested. I don’t know enough about the seven fires, and didn’t play aoe 4 yet to judge your related gameplay suggestions.
but this idea of campaign is really smart. It will maybe help … maybe … a part of reluctants to have some link with the “european” pov of Lief explorer. And so having a link in term of temporality between this encounter of icelander with seven fires.
I admire the work you’ve put into this concept and the Nahua one. I admit that the Plains Natives aren’t a collection of cultures I would have considered as playable nations for AoE IV (the whole “bison-hunters on horseback” thing they’re known for would be a post-Columbian development anyway), but they were able to pull it off in AoE III, so…
You are missing parts of Bolivia, Argentina, Ecuador and Colombia there haha. Also, it didn’t went that much south of chile, that was Mapuche territory. Here is a map comparing Tawuantinsuyo to european countries:
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Wow, the game is barely out and you already have a fan civ design?
I mean, it seems a bit rushed in my opinion… but still congratulations, you are probably the first.
This isn’t even the only one.
And I’m working on one for the Haida, the Maya, and a combined one for the Mik’maq, the Inuit, and a story to tell with Lief Erickson and his voyage to Vinland.
The Haida one interests me the most.
Lief never encountered the Seven Fires. There’s about 2.5 thousand miles separating the two. Lief would have likely encountered the Mik’maq and the Inuit.
Honestly, for as much as I want to push the Seven Fires into this game, they’re the least likely of any of my designs to ever make it to the dev’s minds. Haida could be worked into a campaign around the Aztecs and Mesoamericans - the Haida were known to have raided as far south as Baja California and as far north as the Aleutian Islands, and even have stories among themselves of raiding Hawaii. Anything to do with the west coast of North America could realistically have the Haida appear.
The Inuit could appear in both a campaign about Lief Erickson and in one about the Haida raiding the coasts - the Inuit spanned from the west coast to the east coast in northern Canada, and using them in both campaigns would be a great way to save time while giving a relatively unknown culture their time in the limelight.
The Mik’maq would only have a place in the Lief Erickson story, but they could potentially be used if a campaign is ever explored involving the creation of the Haudenosaunee Confederation, which itself would be an interesting story to tell.
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erf, who knows. Honestly I don’t know if the campaigns / encounter argument is that important as some pretend.
Age of 3 added civ without any related campaigns.
Wow, good job, I just yesterday started to read the topics here.
I’ll look up to read the other ones, and I’ll give you my feedback and opinion as soon as I can.
I looked up the history of the Lakota people (one of the Seven Fires) on Wikipedia, and it suggests that they might actually descend from the Mississippian peoples who dominated much of eastern North America. Their source for this is Barry M. Pritzker’s A Native American Encyclopedia: History, Culture, and Peoples (as indicated in a footnote). So, maybe it should be the Mississippians that represent North America (or at least the eastern half) in AoE IV?
They certainly seem to have been widespread in the area.
I had originally thought that as well, but unfortunately we just don’t know enough about them to make a civ out of them. We know their architecture and how it changed, and we know what their cities looked like, but all the people who inhabited that nation had dispersed into their own nations and collections before anything was ever recorded about them.
If you wanted to go that far back, the Pueblo are probably your best bet.
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