# Civilization Concept: The Swiss (Old Swiss Confederacy)

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Serbs and Croats had different military traditions (not to mention a significant percentage of them hate each other’s guts), they should be done as two separate civs. Add Albanians with Skangedbeg and Vlachs so that Vlad finally has the correct civ.

As for “Teuton split”, my idea looks like this:

> [@All three new campaigns being set in the Viking Age is kinda disappointing NGL](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/all-three-new-campaigns-being-set-in-the-viking-age-is-kinda-disappointing-ngl/288289/24):
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> IMHO: Teutons/Thuringians: current Teutons but they need the Malbork castle skin that’s used by Slavs for some reason. They’d represent Central Germans and their eastward expansion (Ostsiedlung), including the Teutonic Order. Bavarians: Upper Germans from Bavaria and Austria who ruled the HRE. More heavy cavalry focused and they inherit Barbarossa campaign Swabians/Swiss: infantry and archers Saxons would be in the north but so far they seem mostly Anglo-Saxon based frowning

> [@(joke) in-game hint for future DLC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/joke-in-game-hint-for-future-dlc/289228/6):
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> If a Teuton split is to happen: If it’s possible to mix architecture styles, I’d give the Teutons/Thuringians the Slavic set walls (red brick ones).

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