# Civilization Craft: Avars

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**Category:** II - Discussion\
**Created:** [December 12, 2022, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/civilization-craft-avars/220875 "2022-12-12T09:28:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![AbledManatee867](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/abledmanatee867/32/106418_2.png) [@AbledManatee867](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/AbledManatee867)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/civilization-craft-avars/220875/22 "2022-12-20T01:36:22Z")

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> [@DynasticPlanet5](#):
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> If they don’t have camel then I must ask your ELO to say that so straight faced.

> [@TheConqueror753](#):
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> Yeah, for real. What? There’s a reason nobody uses Turk spearmen, it’s because they are terrible. You need at least pikes if you don’t have another anti cav option.

This civ has +1 attack Steppe Lancer and +2 vs Cavalry for Steppe lancer, totaled Steppe Lancer has +3 attack vs Cavalry, which means 12 damage against Cav. Camel-line has only 14 attack without 1 range. +3 attack Steppe Lancer counter every type of cavalry. Countering Camels needs some micro but it also counter Camels.

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