Concepts for Central Indian DLC

Problem with the sinhaleese is the stable,they too should only have access to lc line and be lines for historical reasons so they too will lack mobility part in the tech tree.

It is dumb, but it’s what we have to work with for South Asian civs.

Why I am hoping a potential future one can have a unique knight-replacement at the stable that’s fairly similar.

Yeap, Rajputs, Jats, Marathas, Sikhs, Gurjaras, and even South Indian dynasties used armies of cavalry. Stupid lazy designing is what is to blame.

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As long as their stable is garbage like Dravidians, it is workable. Bengalis stable is not as bad as people think. FU LC in Castle Age can be performed as cost efficient as Knight in a lot of situations.

The Ashvaka might be a good choice, at least for Gurjaras and Bengalis.
It could be a mercenary horseman, trainable in the Castle age Stables, cost only gold and probably have no elite upgrade, which means it should be useful in early games but later it would not be worthy and you must switch to other units, like elephants.

Well, I’m not sure whether the Dravidians can have the Ashvaka, if we are going to ask for accuracy seriously.

It should be fine for the Sinhalese to not have the Ashvaka too, as long as they can have superior archers, monks, siege weapons and towers.

The another choice might be a simpler chariot, pulled by one horse, trainable in the Castle age Stables too, but cost wood and gold and also probably have no elite upgrade. A chariot unit can reasonably serve not only Gurjaras and Bengalis but also Dravidians and Sinhalese.

This chariot must only attack in melee and maybe have a name such as Anas (अनस् , “cart” or “wagon” in the Rigveda) or Sakata (शकट , “cart” or “carriage”), so the Ratha could keep its identity. Maybe let the Ratha visually use a polearm in melee and let the Anas use a sword or a mace.

Costing wood rather than food should make it useful in early games too, and having no elite should also make it unworthy later. It can also reflect the fast loss of military use of Indian chariots in the early centuries of the Middle Ages.

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Chariots were an ancient hindu army unit no one really used them in the middle ages.

I tried creating some tech tree and bonuses.



You are welcome to feedback. :sweat_smile:

Well if you check the military departments of the early medieval Indian dynasties and kingdoms, there were usually have a department for chariots, besides others for the infantry, horsemen and elephants. It’s indeed that the military use of chariots was lost very quickly in the early Middle Ages but the real military use of chariots in India seemed to be recorded until the 8th century, which means that the military chariots were not abandoned overnight. In my idea above, the Anas, one-horse-pulling chariot in Stables, has no elite upgrade in the Imperial Age so it can represent the fact that chariots were no more used in military later.

I just think that, if the Ashvaka or Anas could be introduced, there would be as many as 4 regional units, including 3 specifically for Indians. Maybe the Elephant Archer could also replace the Cavalry Archer for Khmer, Burmese and Malays.

Kalingans should be number one priority from South Asia. Then I would rename Dravidians to Tamils and add Kannadas. My third choice would be either Deccanis or Sinhalese.

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Those are very weird and probably quite unbalanced civs. Kannadigas are almost surely overpowered thanksvto their archer play and free techs. The rest of the civ seems quite weak though maybevthe tower bonus is super strong.

Kalingans depend entirely on their archer play in outposts. Everything else is quite weak

Yes, Sikhs are more from the 19th century, meaning AoE 3…

Sikhs are present before the Mughals arrived.

Why?

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If I had to guess, because the Indian Monastery is Kalinga in origin.

I think he says that because Kalinga isnt Dravidian

To me at least the fact that the Kamnadigas were great powers for the entire timelinevis more impressive

As you can see from the poles most of us South Asians dont want it… because we really need dlcs on Africa, East Asia and probably North America Right now

@Mahazona Why not? I’d like to hear your reasoning behind voting ‘No’ and why you believe the Sinhalese should be given higher priority than other South Asian civilizations, based on what I understand judging from your profile picture and recent discussions.

If I had to guess, he said that because the Kalingans have no overlaps with other civilizations in the game, cover a large area, interact with many civilizations from Africa to China, and they are an ancient civilization that remained independent for much of history.

@Apocalypso4826 I don’t understand your reasoning behind Monastery being of Kalingan Origin.

@StereoQuasar163 It appears you may have missed the post because I didn’t mention anywhere that the DLC need to arrive before Africans, North Americans, East Asian DLC. This post is meant to explore the idea of such a DLC and its potential features. As there are many such similar threads about Balkans, Germans, Rus and other Areas. So, why not consider this one as well?

Where did I say that?

This is just your person preference,same could be said for other peoples too.

As I said I judged it from your profile picture and recent discussions. Anyways if that is not the case, I am sorry.

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I would rather have kannadigas represent rashtakutas and vijayanagar than sinhaleese anyday.

P.S im from sri lanka but that dosent mean I want my people in game.we already have representation in aoe2 and aoe3.

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