Could Slavs lose their monk bonus now?

Since Slavs got back their 15% faster farming bonus, could they lose the faster moving monk bonus? As Definitive Edition nerfed their farming bonus to 10%, they got multiple buff over the years. Those changes were probably necessary but now seems pretty overbuffed to me.

It is not like the faster moving bonus is too strong bonus or Slavs are OP or anything. I just think we should not have a civ at unnecessarily overbuffed state. What do you guys think?

Edit: Slavs can get Fervor back.

Picture : All the changes Slavs have gone through since DE.

It might make a big difference perhaps in some maps.

They get 5% faster Fervor for free, saving 140 gold. They can’t research Fervor, that would be crazy. The faster monks do help the Slavs take relics before their enemy can. It can be very good on Arena I guess, but it should not make much of a difference in some maps.

They can get Fervor back. I forgot to mention that.

I dont think Slavs are in an overbuffed state, especially as their pick rate is still subpar: 1.67% in both 1v1 and TG, whereas the average rate for 45 civs is 2.22.
They are not dominating the ladder or the tournaments.
Even if they were currently a little overbuffed, it would still feel fair given their pick rate.

But in this particular case, I wouldnt mind reverting the “free monk speed instead of fervor” buff or any single of their post-DE minor buffs, because I like it better when there are no “meaningless changes” between the DE and HD versions.
I think the Boyars buffs are healthy fir the civ and should not be reverted.

Just like if Vikings were to need a late buff, I would rather have it through the imperial UT while giving back thumb ring and removing the +1 damage on arbalesters.

I should have highlighted at the “Unnecessary” part and avoided “Overbuffed” term. I think I could say “Over bonused” state.

I’m sure if they lost the bonus at 15% faster farm patch, nothing of that stat would change.

It is like they don’t need the bonus. But it is not needed to remove the bonus either.

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I like the monk speed as it gives some more unique identity to the civ. Also, there has to be some competition for those Armenian warrior monks. The more monk bonuses are out there, the more interesting it becomes to draft civs for closed maps.

If I had to nerf something about Slavs, I think the farm bonus is more troublesome so I would be inclined to nerf that. But I don’t think Slavs are a priority for nerfs. I would rather nerf Portuguese who are top/high tier in all maps.

This bonus could go to another civ with worse pick rate or win rate (and good monks).

I would not nerf the Slavs farm bonus anymore. The eco and the win rate of the civ are healthy, especially with their pick rate.

I would not mind a Portuguese nerf either. I agree that they are very stromg on every map.

Bengalis? Maybe even Aztecs as their win rate is not looking good in ladder.

Well, I never meant to nerf Slavs. And the bonus is hardly noticeable. If it is gone, hardly anything will change.