I am playing the game, although not enjoying myself as i am with age 2 or age 3.
criticism is not bad. Devs are watching, may fix stuff.
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Just to clarify, my opinion was that the playercount itself comes from the brandname and Microsoft
if it were a series Age of [Anything], without Microsoft (independently) it would be different;
itās not really the best RTS game with redeeming gameplay to get people to play.
his statement was: āIf it continues soon it will be below age 2 in numbers of playersā¦ā
I agree. over time, (and opinion: yes AoM and AoE3 were still better crafted). The charts you show already show the avg difference is like ~5000 players and going down.
But, I think you missed something (that can explain that current ~5000 gap):
https://steamdb.info/app/221380/graphs/ : +5096
nonsteam services, vanilla game (voobly, gameranger, etc.): easily ~+1000
AoE2 does actually hold about equal current players at this present time as AoE4, whose release hype is going down, so I would say, AoE2(1999) and re-releases are on track to be more popular. He was right.
You should also keep in mind that AoE4 has helped several players get to know the AoE saga.
You should also keep in mind that an RTS, MOBA or genres of the style, without a solid competitive system where there must be a lot of tournaments, tends to be played less.
You should also bear in mind that some maybe played AoE2 2-3h on average and now play less.
You should also keep in mind that AoE4 went on sale on October 28 and you calculate data from July. Letās see if next year it keeps the numbers.
Steam is not the only platform where you can play AoE4.
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It seems almost all the replies or points are being ācensoredā and āremovedā without any warning.
If you have to censor because it made you look worse, itās not worth my time nor anyoneās timeā¦
example of a post that maybe had 1 negative word in it but otherwise was sort of useful:
If you want to not discuss negative game reviews thatās one thing but donāt tailor to change the look as if it is less damning.
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If someone loves the AoE franchise and does not love AoE4, this is precisely where they should be posting. I submit that constructive criticism from those of us who feel that AoE4 failed in its mission to appeal to lifelong players of this franchise should be very valuable information to anyone tasked with capturing that market in future content.
Please do not gatekeep this forum. That is how echo chambers are created. Iāve been on this forum for about 10 years, and we have always served as a clearinghouse for all kinds of opinions, and the franchise is stronger for it.
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The problem is more with people that are making non-constructive criticism or people that are upset this isnāt a carbon copy of aoe2.
Itās annoying because a decent number of the forum threads are made by the same 1-2 guys making new accounts and hating on devs.
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aoe 4 is not good to play atm. better playy other meanwhile they try to fix it
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It was hard to get your point but yeah, I agree, it needs work. but the problem is, when it does solve all issues, people will have lost interest and moved on.
Iām still waiting to see a single person thinking that on this forum.
Itās the apologistsā Yeti.
If you think pointing at something AOE2 did better equals wanting another AOE2 then youāre just too dense to see the point.
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they already did. from the charts in Age of Empires IV - Steam Charts you can see that the 70k that used to have in its playerbase now its reduced to less than 20k
Unfortunatly the minority are always the loudest
A lot of the complaints (thereās even a dedicated thread to it) is I like how AOE2 did this so AOE4 should do it that way too, not understanding that this is a different game and different doesnt mean bad.
You are free to dislike the game, that;s fine. I personally greatly enjoy AOE4 and mostly just hope that bugs like those that plague Delhi get fixed (and maybe a small horseman buff).
Again, no one was stating they want a re-vamp of the 20 years old AoE2.
They were only pointing out that it still ended up the better game; aoe4 even has 1st year release momentum
(It happened as we and the other comments predicted)
Try making an RTS game without stealing brandname perhaps.
I still only feel itās bad that it was a soulless cash grab, sparking peopleās interest only because the originals were higher quality.
Just say what is clearly defined by logic and intellect: new devs were bad, they couldnāt make a good game on their own, then the SJWs came over to ruin another brand that was made good by other devs that made their product almost legendary status; as usual it doesnāt matter where it happens, they take brand of anything old that was kind of cool or quality, and milk it to death.
Like concept of a failure saying they know they canāt something, but if they disguise and cheat as someone who can, they might trick people to like them just long enough until it gets exposed. It really is just truth here even if itās an ugly one!
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Having a pro game casting for AOM, but a ā ā ā ā casual game for AOE4? No a winter series?
Nice review man, you lost all of your credibility.