The sneaky stronghold is getting too annoying and free elo on the ladder. Sheesh, do I even have to say more?
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People want Incas to be left with nothing other than bows and pikes, and a weak, worthless fort lol. Kanchas OP, huaracas OP, zapotec rush OP, fort OP, chasquis OP. Jesus Christ what civ do YOU play? It must be completely gimped and have no advantages!
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They have the wrong design for this game, mobile shipement points, garrison military units without a penalty, age2 TC shipment. I didn’t complain about the rest, seems balanced to me, but that “let’s design it like it’s aoe2!” idea has no place in this game.
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El enviĂł de town center es pagado mientras que Portugal lo tiene gratis desde el vainilla, los puntos de enviĂł mĂłviles igual los tienen los japoneses, y lo de la fortaleza si necesita un retoque, pero al menos yo no me he encontrado con dificultades para ganarles.
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Thematically it makes sense. They were running around everywhere relaying from tambo to tambo. And garrisoning military units is worthless. The military is used to fight. If you are hiding you are wasting the resources you spent.
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you can literally siege with huaracas and hide them in the fort, slowly destroying the enemy base, hiding your units like that is op, you can’t siege them with falcs, neither with petards.
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si pero japon no te tira un fuerte a 2m de tu TC, esa es la diferencia, y es muy facil de matar al daymio.
existe la carta artilleria avanzada te permite crear morteros en 3 edad (junto con artillerĂa a caballo)
Haven’t you found out how strong Ethiopia is? Do you need to turn the top ten players into Chinese players before you reflect on it?
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Have you found out the last aoe3 tourney was known for this inca strat?
These are all tactics that Chinese players are tired of playing, and they are not invincible. Only kaiserklein was hanged by this tactic. Because he doesn’t study new countries and new tactics at all, thinking that only manipulating units is the most powerful. Also keep the old idea to play the game.
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Instead of nerfs in Ethiopia or what you call the Inca, strengthen the other civs to be as good as they are so no one will complain.
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The fort isn’t even anything special, it’s the refusal of players to adapt that’s the issue. Exiled prince being the only used age up for 10 years is fine to them because it fits their semi-ff meta of 3v,4v,700w,700g then skirm goon spam every game, no cry for that to be nerfed I noticed. It’s always civs not played by the elite players that get screamed at to be nerfed.
Chasqui’s receiving the fort happens once per game, nothing stops you from putting units out and finding the chasqui mid map, on most maps you can’t actually sneak a fort behind the base because it’s within tc build area. So in 99% of games it’ll be placed mid map between your 2 tc’s, get units out early mid map and wait for the fort, siege it while being built and get it down while it’s damage is low because it’s damage is nothing special without units garrisoned, you can siege it before they train units inside and ship units to it.
Alternatively choose a civ that does well vs inca, try ethiopia with it’s 8 min 40 unit timing of gascenya and sudanese and see how long the fort lasts, or FF and get the sebastopol mortar and siege the fort while protected by gascenya with an abun healing the mortar constantly.
Play brit and go longbows, they shred huaracas and siege archery even let’s them siege the fort outside of it’s firing range when combined with yeoman.
Actually combine an attack with various units instead of saying petards get picked off by huaracas, falcs get sniped etc. Push the fort with cav, while falconets are firing and petards moving in. Force them to target 1 of them and lose their units which they can’t replace due to low eco once the shipments are killed. Falconets also out range and counter huaracas even though huaracas should be anti-artillery and the fort doesn’t have enough range to even hit falconets.
Sorry for the rant but I’m so tired of civs being nerfed because of the vocal minority, inca is no where near the level of real op things like old hausa tower rush or old sweden, legacy iro/otto etc. They’ve received like 20 nerfs at least, just stop.
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Agreed. The fort drop is basically a cheese, it should be handled as such. Standard openings are usually bad against cheese, so it is just adapt a bit.
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its being annoying to watch the same nonsense
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