Devs PoV about adding More Civs

Habsburgs were not a civilization, they were an imperial bloodline.
They are also mostly post-Medieval.

For almost 20 years, Persans were also the Tatars, since Temur was an AI name. Persians already had a civ split.

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Did you miss any?

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Yay! Great idea JonOli12! Next DLC Swiss and Bohemians!
:yum:

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Would honestly be a great DLC.
Though I think Swiss would be better on a Mountain themed DLC, that includes the Tibetans and Georgians.

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No, why do we need those??? :frowning_face:
Your idea was great till you were speaking of Swiss and Bohemians being next…

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You do want Tibetans and Georgians?
Too bad! They are both highly requested.

Wouls also fit the Forgotten Empires DLC theme, of adding several civs from different places, but I guess if you do not want them, you will just have to not buy the DLC!

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Georgians are not European. So we cannot include them in a (European) DLC.

They were European in culture, which makes them European to me.

Also they are part of what I would call Europe, just under them however is where Asia starts

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Oh! Are they? Then it’s fine. Then let’s add Swiss, Bohemians and Georgians.

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Are you one of the people who believe most of Russia is ‘Asia’?

They are a continental border people. They are part european, have an european religion and political system, and eastern european-style architecture.

I know you are trying to sound sarcastic with this, but you are just not getting there.

Georgians were part european, part middle eastern, as a culture, with influences of both.

You do not want a hybrid civ?

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Most of Russia is in Asia, though.
Not in the Middle Ages, but most of the modern territory is asiatic.

Culturally, they are still europeans.

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That depends whether you are basing it on geographical vs. political identity :wink:

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In my opinion we dont really need more civs. There are already 35 civs to pick. Consider all the possible civ match ups for 1v1. 35*35=1225. To play all different match ups you already need 1225 games. Civs also can play different strategies and you have different maps as well. Then add team games as well (the number of match ups will even exploit even more). So currently no one is able to really play every civs match up for 1v1 to team games. For me that shows we just have enough civs.

Some new civs are clones of existiing civs with just a slight tweak. Nothing too special at all. They will play exactly the same in most of the game. That is bad design in my eyes. Luckily this seems to be not the case for the next new civs. They must be disruptive. Yeah, that seems like a good idea. If they add civs, they need to add something new to the game. They dont need to be a clone of an already existing civ.

Also i do think the devs dont have the priorities right. I dont think adding new civs needs to be high on the priority list. I would love to see some more bug fixes. I also would love to see some more love for TGs. The TG ladder is currently broken. It is broken from the release and it looks like they wont wanna fix it in the near feature. There are also still some performance issues. These things need much more priority.

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Let us get those diferent possible matchups to 40.000!

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Just play 2v2s. There are already 1.5 million match ups.
3v3 already have 1.8 billion match ups.
4v4 already leads to 2.2 trillion match ups.

There will be already no human on earth that will play all the different match ups.

Do you also wanna know the new numbers for 37 civs?

1v1: 1369
2v2: 1.9 million
3v3: 2.6 billion
4v4: 3.3 trillion

No. I want 1v1 to be chaotic and unpredictable. Dependant on better strategy and resource allocation, not on practiced builds.

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Actulally the possible matchups with 35 civs are 595 it is not 35x35 it is 34 +33+32 … +1 but if you want to be on both end of the matchup its 1190 ( play as franks vs brits and brits vs franks) so your point stands. Btw with 37 civs the possible matchups are 666 :stuck_out_tongue:

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Indeed, i see Franks vs Britons and Britons vs Franks as two different match up, because you want to play both ends of a match up. In your counting you also neglict the mirror games (so Franks vs Franks). So in the end you want to play 35*35=1225 different games, which is the number i shown.

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Fair enough you have a point about mirror games. I really hate them so is normal I did not even consider them as possibility lol. So it is 630 unique matchups and 1225 If you want to be on both sides.