I know but we cannot let those kind make the decision or be our vocal speciually the ones who stay near to the dev team in a way or another as a comunitty for aoe as a whole
Please read before commenting, as per my usual reccomendation. Thanks!
I said that because of your previous comment and the hypocrisy on it. thanks
for what we’re dealing with now –
the correct tone: fix this now
the wrong tone: its been months/years, fixes are nice to have
the right direction: fix issues
the wrong direction: add biome
devs correct response: hi, we’ll look into this asap
devs less correct response: hi, we’ll look into this when possible
devs wrong response: sorry we dont have the time
devs worst response (no response)
wrong dev attitude: this is a modern game, hotkeys are complex
correct dev attitude: if sc2 and other games can have fully custom keys years back, we can do it much better in shorter time.
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Telling folks how to post is rarely a convincing argument.
Much like telling them to use a grid system for hotkeys. But I guess it’s okay when you’re doing the telling?
Don’t assume that everyone has your priorities. I want these things fixed too. If they were fixed tomorrow I’d be super happy. But everyone’s lists are ordered a bit differently.
adding map name to loading screen after 1 year? what sort of funny priority list is this? or is it too complex? i understand this is how you like to do things, but you are gonna get criticism from customers.
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You keep going on about this like it’s relevant. I’d understand if it was literally the only thing added to the game, but it’s not.
It’s not even something I asked for, so I don’t get why you think it’s so important.
It also has nothing to do with telling other people that what you want is more important than what they want. Like I said, rarely a convincing argument.
its very relevant, because we’re suddenly talking about priority lists. because you don’t play the game, you might not know its important because you may forget the map you’re playing especially after playing in a straight session. every modern game i can think of add the map name, and if it isnt important at all, they wouldn’t have eventually added it. if its importance has to be explained, i would find it very difficult to take anything you say seriously, which is somewhat the case for everyone else who has participated in chatting with u.
i find your comments unhelpful, unconvincing and assertive.
this topic is asking devs to come and fix, im not here to hear fixes are nice to have, or how priority lists work (in accordance to your way of development). this is not a topic to hear your assertion of “rarely a convincing argument”. this topic is not about aoe4 being a modern game, hence every aspect is complex like hotkeys. but as you know, some people do find the simplest tasks difficult sometimes simply due to lack of commitment or experience or skill. this topic is about what i want, with its importance explained, not just by me, but many others, its not about what you want, not what other people want. you want something else, make ur own topic.
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Never mind. Color selection “wasn’t important” for almost a year before it was added to the game (a GREAT FEAT btw). Even fixing the bugs like infinite relic “wasn’t important” in the first month.
There is just a clandestine, dynamically-assigned priority list that happens to not prioritize anything people come to this forum to ask for. And things will become less important if you sound like you’re criticizing the developers.
BTW expect “other games having it does not mean it is a must-have”.
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relax, this guys just fire up the topic for more views. Devs would see a lot views and will fix it. 5head
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Plenty of people don’t play the game and post about it. But you give them a pass for some reason or another.
Besides, I play the game.
Doesn’t really matter. You can convince yourself that I’m not worth listening to, it’s no fuss to me. Your priority list still isn’t the same as everyone else’s.
We’ve been over this before, but no, this thread is about asking what it takes to get them fixed. Your words.
Beyond that, I have no interest in repeating myself. Just wanted to give some advice about telling others what they want is wrong. Good luck with it!
I mean, nobody knows what the priority list is. Everyone’s free to criticise what they want. But I understand you need to invent enemies, it’s not exactly a new trick you’ve learned here.
A load of things that the community has asked for have been implemented. Rebindable hotkeys are literally one of those things 
Criticise the communication, the speed of the fixes, sure. Say that the game needed more time before it was released, sure. But to whine that they’ve mostly added what people wanted?
That’s just silly.
your advice is usually ill received by everyone, but its something you already know. probably in other areas too? and that’s because your advice isn’t really advice, its assertion.
if it wasn’t surprising to you, i’ve been taking jabs at the priority list quite a lot, even if not worded directly at the priority list. if you find a python in your living room while watching a TV show, normally people’s priority is to deal with the python one way or another than to finish watching the show and not argue everyone have different priorities. or when your house door is broken (infinite relics??!?!!), you don’t spend your time decorating your windows purple just so that you can have annoying light inside your home.
See these? Assertions There’s plenty more, you can find them in nearly every post you make.
Do you really think everyone not agreeing with you is some sort of coincidence, and everyone needing to repeat and explain in an elementary school way is a coincidence?
Please, just stop, my brain cells hurt reading the things you say.
Devs come fix hotkeys, so I don’t need to post here anymore.
So this is how you
Find one sentence I wrote here implying that.
I didn’t even criticize the developers here at all. I guess those fending off people’s requests are trying to imply the devs don’t care.
On the contrary, because I believe they care so much, and they have done a good job responding to people’s demands, it is people’s responsibility to ask for even urge things.
For someone who puts everything people have asked for (from zoom, to bug fixing, to color selection, to moving chicken, to building proportions, to “listing the map name”) at the bottom of the priority list on their behalf? I don’t know.
Someone tries to convince people their demands are not important, not realistic, not blahblahblah, so Relic god will not listen and we have to guess Relic god’s words according to his rules. However Relic god listens.
So I think it’s time to fire that Relic cleric who pretend to speak on Relic god’s behalf.
BTW
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im simply asking them to fix 2 things now since they cant be bothered doing them all
prelate grid1,2 position
and mali upgraded warrior scouts on TC
Sure.
Unless you’re talking about posters here, and not the devs, in which case it’s even sillier.
The priority list is real, we just don’t know what it is. We have our own priority lists as players.
The devs will never use the priority list of a single player. If you think somebody’s personal list is “clandestine”, ask them about it. I talk about popular requests all the time. I even agree with other popular ones (like fixing custom keybinds). But you and certain other posters always have to make it into something it’s not.
It’s not a very welcoming attitude. I’d imagine it even puts some people off posting, just because they didn’t agree strongly enough.
I said it was silly. I didn’t tell you to stop posting. That’s what OyaG0 is doing (to me).
Ah yes, the four people active in this thread are “everyone”.
Don’t worry, I can wait. Eventually you’ll tell them they’re wrong for wanting the devs to do something else first. Or you’ll tell them they don’t play the game
Everyone is close enough to something you’d understand, which is most people, but I guess even that you do need clarification, I know how hard it is for you to understand context.
Why are u arguing with everyone (nearly everyone, but many enough to say everyone in my eyes) in just about every thread? You do this irl too?
It’s not as if your opinion and assertions are helpful or even correct in any way.
BTW, you should carefully read and quote other portions of the past posts if you must reply. can start with `
invent enemies
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Unless you’re a developer, I doubt it 
Fantastic job, this interpreting you’ve done. I said every player wants a slightly different list of things, because the other poster said “fix this now”. “fix this” wasn’t good enough (or so they told me). It had to be “fix it now”.
I’m not. Like I said, you invented an enemy. I was talking about competing player priorities. I hope the one thing we can agree on is “fix hotkeys”.
However, I was being told that the only acceptable position is “fix hotkeys now”, and that there was no room for any other opinion.
So I disagreed.
People can. But like I’ve already said, you’ve completely misread me (like you have a habit of doing).
I’m active in two or three threads right now, but sure, “every thread” lol.
I agree with wanting hotkeys fixed. Problem was, this wasn’t good enough for you. That’s not a me problem. That’s not me arguing. That’s you.
He’s just patrolling the forum hunting down every sentence that sounds like it might hurt the devs.
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I made a couple of posts to talk about why I thought balance changes didn’t interfere with bugfixes (unless there was overlap), but my first bit on why hotkeys weren’t working properly yet was this post:
See where I said that the waiting and slow communication gets people frustrated?
No?
Of course not. You just needed someone to fight with 
It doesn’t matter what I say or what concerns I agree with. I’m “patrolling” the forums 
He nitpicks on words too and forgets there’s this same sentiment of discussion in just about every thread he’s in.
Anyway I’m really starting to wonder about sanity, not joking. But I’ll leave u guys to argue, it’s really been a waste of time.
devs come fix actual problem