Divide the umbrella civilization of the Slavs: Russians, Ukrainians, Serbs, Vlachs

[UpmostRook9474]

A DLC arround the Black Sea: Armenians, Georgians, Vlachs, and renaming Slavs to Rus, simple and beautiful.

If we really, realy need a South Slavic civilization other than the Bulgarians, then the Croatians are really good because their naval indentity is rare in that region. And this can give the DLC a good title: Antemurae Christianitatis, to symbolize the history of these civilizations fighting against the invasion of Muslim power.

PS. Even if there will be no Croatians, the DLC still can be simply named Bulwark of Christendom.

Antemurale Christianitatis

[Lotor13]

@Nebular905647

Ukrainians / Cossacks

@SamePorpoise303

Not sure about Ukrainians/Cossacks since they were sort of relevant only towards the very end of aoe2 (1550 on). You could use Ruthenians or Novgorodians maybe for middle ages…

Not really,

Slavs civ fit perfectly for representong medieval Rus principalities

to split Slavs to moder nation ukraine is non-sense

[RatcicleFan]

@Nebular905647

There are dictatorships in Africa. And yet these countries are represented in the game.

I guess you’re right about Africa being represented

But it’s very poorly so

And also, medieval African nations aren’t the same as modern ones. Something called Scramble for Africa kinda happened.

Anyway, I have nothing against a Slav split, but personally I just want a rename of the Slavs and a separate Wallachian/Vlach to go along with the Dracula campaign.

[MatM1996]

@TommoChocolate

So you’re saying yes, but also no? I’m actually more confused than before about what your position is.

That is, AoK at the civs level starts after the fall of Rome, but at the campaign level it starts in the 12th century (Frederick Barbarossa)…

@TommoChocolate

In any case, there was always more to the game than the campaigns. I know the ages don’t represent exact historical time periods, but clearly the ES devs didn’t think a game featuring Vikings and the Dark Age started in 1150. When I said c. 450 to 1450, that’s the time period I recall being stated by the developers while AoK was being made. And to me, that seems consistent with the game content as a whole (not just campaign scenarios, but civilisations, units and techs, ages, and heroes).

Yes, of course… that’s what I mean… but it’s normal in what the saga is…

@UpmostRook9474

A DLC arround the Black Sea: Armenians, Georgians, Vlachs, and renaming Slavs to Rus, simple and beautiful.

If we really, realy need a South Slavic civilization other than the Bulgarians, then the Croatians are really good because their naval indentity is rare in that region. And this can give the DLC a good title: Antemurae Christianitatis, to symbolize the history of these civilizations fighting against the invasion of Muslim power.

PS. Even if there will be no Croatians, the DLC still can be simply named Bulwark of Christendom.

Yes, it seems good to me…

[PeakHornet46539]

They won’t name a DLC with any religious terminology.

[UpmostRook9474]

But it is also a historical term.

Anyway you can still name it Bulwarks of Black sea or any other like to refer this theme.

[MSTVD]

In fairy tails we can often see bogatyrs who are an unreal super-verison of vityazes. Bogatyr means smth like “rich one” but rich with force, not money.

Bogatyr derives from the Turkic word Baghatur, meaning hero
Bogatyrs like Alyosha Popovich, Dobrynya Nikitich, Svyatogor, Ilya Muromets, were folk heroes akin to Hercules, Odysseus, and Theseus from the Greek myths

[MatM1996]

Yes, they could appear in AoE 2 DE or AoM Retold…