Do you find mangonels OP?

Perhaps that’s it too. In AoE II I feel like I have more granular control of what my units should be attacking and when. I can really apply strategy to the battle. I don’t feel like I have that control in AoE IV and from watching some matches in YouTube I see similar engagements.

Meat grinder as you put it is exactly how I feel battles unfold.

Spread formation is fine if you’re caught off base by mangonels moving across the map, but once units start fighting, they forget their formation and bunch up. You have to keep separating them and good luck if you didn’t CTRL+group them beforehand. Somebody said that units in AoE IV behave like a liquid and that’s true.