Do You like to play water maps ? Or do You like naval combat in AoE4?

I don’t understand why fish has to be so efficient? Why not just make it as a bonus income for people who want an eco boost without going 2TC. Then it wouldn’t feel so bad to lose water. And water can be used in other strategic ways design-wise, like controlling certain parts of the map.

I’d say winning water and having an income that’s impossible to contest or raid is a good enough reason to go water, without the need of making it mandatory via an artificially high gathering boost.

in a lot of the water maps there simply isn’t enough space on the starting islands so you can very quickly be shut out if you lose advantage on the water.

same 3 ships on every game and civ is boring so there no incentive to play it