Fair enough. Although I think Burmese needs EA. Worth to mention their UT “Howdah” literally means the seat mounted on top of EA.
And Cham to have a full 2 civs DLC.
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and the Mon
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Tbh I really like the Mon but they feel way too obscure even compared to any of the civilizations I usually defend
I just cant imagine the devs adding them
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Yeah, I remember something about the Chams always having an elephant at the center of their military formations…
Siamese and deccani the dynasties of rajas dlc.
The Mon are already in the Burmese and Khmer campaigns.
(I think the story about Wareru could be a very cool Mon campaign)
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May I know why?
The are represented by Burmese civ with their UU and UT.
Uh… I think you may be thinking about Manipuri rather than Mon, because that’s where the Arambai and Manipur Cavalry come from. As for the Howdah, it isn’t reallly specific to one people in history.
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Idk I just think theres way too much in South East Asia to add and the Mon are usually overshadowed by the Burmese and Thai which are the nations that replaced them
I also think they are less known than the Chams or Shan but that may just be my impressoon
Oops. My mistake. Since both of them are represented by Burmese in the game, I mixed them.
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Mons (Pegu) are better represented by Khmer. Because they relate linguistically and architecture wise.
For the Vietnamese they used horse archer in middle age during the 10 th and 11 th century (see wikipedia Mounted archery) so no elephant archer for them.
For the Khmer they have the balista elephant, they don’t need elephant archer.
I think elephant archer are out of place for south east asian civilization. Maybe an elephant skirmisher for south east asian civilization ( excpet for the Vietnamese because theye use real horse archer)
For the siege elephant it’s definitively a south asian regional unit only.
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Not every civ have halb or good monks. Elephant skirmishers would be overpowered.
Why not both? They dont have hand cannon so just pluck it into that slot but make it so that the archer bonus doesnt effect elephant units forcing you to consider Chatrahs to get a similar effect
The Elephant Archer was basically made to replace the Cavalry Archer for civs in those regions, so there’s no need for both to exist at the same time.
Besides, I personally find it kinda inelegant (even a bit annoying) when the unit button ends up in a different slot depending on the civ.
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A new Elephant Javelineer unit for Southeast Asia could be a good idea. It can be bundled in an Indonesian DLC update.
I mean…mechanically it does not replace it in the slightest.
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Well, you know, in the game, they do act as the replacement. I’d be fine if EA and CA were two different lines, but the former has been made to replace the latter. That’s it.
I mind more that the same button is in different places for different civs. If EA is no longer a replacement for CA, then one of them (most likely EA) should move the button to another slot. And the thing is, the Archery Range is gonna run out of space.
At this rate, elephant civs may have its own elephant building, separating elephants from the rest of other military buildings.
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Can we not continue a 2+ years old thread? If it is relevant, please make a new thread.