# Enemies cancel the game when are loosing **URL:** \ **Category:** IV - Report a Bug\ **Created:** [December 7, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/enemies-cancel-the-game-when-are-loosing/188281 "2021-12-07T17:56:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![adrikaii](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/adrikaii/32/103259_2.png) [@adrikaii](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/adrikaii)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/enemies-cancel-the-game-when-are-loosing/188281/1 "2021-12-07T17:56:10Z")
I don’t know exactly how it’s done. But many times the game crashes (due to a network error or something like that, the message says). I suspect that it is something that can be caused since it always happens to us winning and it has never happened to us in an unfavorable situation. It is strange, yesterday it happened to us 2 times in a row (that we were devastating) and today the same, about to end and the game “falls”. Very rare. Does anyone experience something like this? ---
**Author:** ![Konithir](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/konithir/32/44374_2.png) [@Konithir](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Konithir)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/enemies-cancel-the-game-when-are-loosing/188281/2 "2021-12-07T18:30:45Z")
Something like this? > [@Opponent able to crash my game when about to lose](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/opponent-able-to-crash-my-game-when-about-to-lose/188066): > > Was playing against abbasid 1v1, the guy was abusing spear infinite range bug. No problem that time, he started to lose, but when I was at his base he just said “bye I crash your game” and after about 5 sec my game crashed and counted as loss. An error text appeared but sadly I didn’t take note of it. Because this is such a nefarious behavior, I’ll report the player’s name here too: l3luehound It seems there are some old reports and this player has done it in various other games- just googled … or this? > [@Disconnect players](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/disconnect-players/187925): > > I just played 3v3 game where a player first bragged about having possibility to disconnect players whenever he wishes and win “singlehandly”. And after a minute or so he did. His allies dropped by themself I think. I and my friend got out of sync error. And after scoreview aoe4 closed itself. No idea how it was done, but it’s kind of gamebreaking? No idea how to give “proof” it happened. I can’t see chat during replays. Edit: Match history says the match was lost, but I and others… ---
**Author:** ![adrikaii](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/adrikaii/32/103259_2.png) [@adrikaii](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/adrikaii)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/enemies-cancel-the-game-when-are-loosing/188281/3 "2021-12-07T18:55:52Z")
Hi, i didn’t read about these topics. The first of these ---
**Author:** ![Hani4206002](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/hani4206002/32/104563_2.png) [@Hani4206002](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Hani4206002)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/enemies-cancel-the-game-when-are-loosing/188281/4 "2021-12-08T13:38:17Z")
I may be a little out of topic here but while we’re on the subject: if someone forfeits because you’re about to win, the win condition should still be counted. The other day I was doing the French wonder mastery in 1v1, got my wonder built and untouchable, got the 20 traders, and the enemy disconnected before the wonder victory happened so the mastery didn’t count. I was filling all requirements but the opponent called it gg early. It should have still counted as wonder victory imo. ---
**Author:** ![ReyNess](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/reyness/32/82818_2.png) [@ReyNess](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/ReyNess)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/enemies-cancel-the-game-when-are-loosing/188281/5 "2021-12-08T19:16:06Z")
Same happened to us in our 2vs2 match. See here the thread: [Game crashed for all team playing](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/game-crashed-for-all-team-playing/184646) ---
**Author:** ![Mickoleus](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/mickoleus/32/28157_2.png) [@Mickoleus](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Mickoleus)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/enemies-cancel-the-game-when-are-loosing/188281/6 "2021-12-08T20:04:14Z")
maybe he disconnecta his connection and game breaks, if i rremember well that u could do ina aoe3 also. ---
**Author:** ![O07Craft](https://forums.ageofempires.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@O07Craft](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/O07Craft)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/enemies-cancel-the-game-when-are-loosing/188281/7 "2021-12-08T22:13:56Z")
After much investigating, me an my brother have found that the match crashing for all players mid match, or not saving a replay or counting the game in your history at the end, is usually caused by “grouping”. I read through my warnings.log file on each crash and there is always some sort of sync of group issue when it happens. If you play custom matches, avoid using groups and the problems go away. In quick match, you cannot avoid groups however if playing with more than 1 person. I have submitted a couple bugs in regards to the match crash and replay crash/match not saving but nobody has mentioned that these are linked to groups (Which explains why lots of people don’t experience them). Best bet is to avoid groups for now until Relic figures out there’s something wrong with their group system. ---
**Author:** ![ReyNess](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/reyness/32/82818_2.png) [@ReyNess](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/ReyNess)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/enemies-cancel-the-game-when-are-loosing/188281/8 "2021-12-09T05:28:48Z")
Nice find! It’s true that this happened when I was playing inside a group when the rival crashed our game. ---
**Author:** ![XARDAScoh](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/xardascoh/32/66091_2.png) [@XARDAScoh](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/XARDAScoh)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/enemies-cancel-the-game-when-are-loosing/188281/9 "2021-12-09T05:32:36Z")
Happened to me right now in 4v4. I made fast wonder on 17 min. mark. One of enemy players leaved and suddenly after 1 min de-synch. problem?