Euro outlaws get double imperial upgrade

[coffeeco01]

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• **GAME BUILD #:**PUP
• GAME PLATFORM: Steam / Microsoft Store
• OPERATING SYSTEM: Windows 10 / Windows 8 / Windows 7 / Mac / Linux

ISSUE EXPERIENCED

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PUP states The Mercenary Contractor (Politician, IV → V): Now increases the attack and hitpoints of Outlaws by 50%, as expected.

but Folk Heroes tech also provide +50% shadow tech when you reach imp so euro outlaws get total of 150% stats

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• 100% of the time / matches I play (ALWAYS)

REPRODUCTION STEPS

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Here’s the steps to reproduce the issue:

1. age up with merc contractor
2. research folk heroes
   3.see stat change

EXPECTED RESULT

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Have only one 50% stat boost

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April PUP Notes

its 250, meaning you can still get it during transition to age 2 if its sent as the first card. That effectively has to end. It needs to be 275 at a minimum and it was very low before so saying its high now is meaningless. Yeah they nerf the trickle because they still dont want to actually just nerf the blockhouse cost, so if you actually nerf the blockhouse cost to a meaningful level, then the other stuff has to take a hit. on another note, i should have realised this when i first read the no…

[AnghusKhan]

You’ll see this was an intended fix in the PUP notes:

• The Mercenary Contractor (Politician, IV → V): Now increases the attack and hitpoints of Outlaws by 50%, as expected.

April PUP Notes

April Update – Build # 100.14.1957.0 GAME Fixed an issue where the game would sometimes report being out of memory for particles. Fixed an issue where certain visual effects would incorrectly fly rapidly vertically offscreen and in rare cases result in a crash. Having units be extremely close to buildings while throwing torches, for example could result in the torch VFX flying off screen. Fixed a physics-related crash where maps like Anatolia caused an buffer overflow because they co…

[coffeeco01]

I will ask for a confirmation on that from the devs cause 1pop outlaws that get 150% total stats will break the game

The merc contractor change maybe intended, but folk heroes still having 50% shadow tech might not be

[BjornViking20]

@coffeeco01

The merc contractor change maybe intended, but folk heroes still having 50% shadow tech might not be

If you change the other shadowtech you are ruining outlaws for all non-european civs. This is a terrible idea.

[coffeeco01]

you do know that folk heroes is an euro only tech right? The other civs are not affected by it and they are not connected to each other

[AnghusKhan]

Coffeeco01 has a good point, Folk Heroes getting specially nerfed could work because the other civs get Wild West, Compunction, and Nomadic Bandits instead.

[BjornViking20]

If it’s exclusive to folk heroes and not folk hero-type cards then no problem. Although I would suggest to wait and see if it is as OP as you suggest. Most people don’t use european outlaws, even less in the lategame and you are limited to produce them from one building.

If it goes live and after a couple of months nothing really happens, I think that the option should be extended to other non-european civs as well even.

[coffeeco01]

it doesnt take much for you to see the numbers with your own eyes

this makes the desert outlaws into monster units at 1 pop - the archer has 53 attack at 3 rof, higher then basically any archer in the entire game already and then 31 attack at 1.5 rof, effectively 62 dps, basically higher then any light infantry in the game

the warrior has 74 dps, we are getting into pre-de ashigaru with 80 attack territory here, and that still required the daimyo

the corsair marksman has higher stats then even the ranger, a unit that is so hard to get you need 3 cards and a card to unlock those cards

and to top it all off, they insta-train after dueling school because folk heroes also reduces train time

and who can forget this game-breaker now with 80atk at 2 pop

They make imperial mercs look tame

also remember that italy has 5 lombards and 3 taverns that they can train this from, germany has mercenary camps as well now