Got a question for you and most very “must have Euro civs asap” players… what do they offer from a gameplay perspective? I give a rat’s butt about history as the only Euro civ that can really feel like it breaks trends are Vandals (camels and likely demo ships) and some sort of further Eastern Steppe influenced Russians (but if they’re East of Ural Mountains they aren’t European anyway.
Look at the world map and think hard. What do Asian civs offer? Well to be honest that’s a mixed bag. If you asked me there’s little gameplay variety in Ainu civ compared to say Jurchens who could easily have Lancers and Thai who would be easily having a bunch of elephant units.
This is at least to me why the world beyond the European peninsula is so potent. We still only have 3 civs with Eagles, 3 with Lancers and 3 with elephant archers. These units haven’t reached their potential the way camels have as the camel has various tech tree maximum amalgamations on the unit and civs that have unit but don’t have bonus for said unit.
So what do European civs offer? Paladins? True. Only European civs like Cumans… wait no like Persians! Hmmm. Well we can safely say there could be no arguments to fit Paladins on other civs known for the heaviest cavalry. Certainly not in Central African, nope!
So many units and unit combos cry out for attention. Where’s our Infantry and Cav Archer civ?
Where’s the No cavalry but yes gunpowder civs?
The potential is great. I think you get what I’m saying.
Love the double standards. When this post with 200 votes has 49.5% votes “in favor” it quote “doesn’t mean the majority are for it”, but when your post with so far 166 votes has 49.5% votes for “yes but later” it means “People are okay with European civs. Down the road. Not something to happen soon”.
How come your attitude is different from the previous “doesn’t mean the majority are for it” in this case?
I see you decreased your original standard of 500 votes.
Going from there’s plenty of reddit votes with over 500 votes that will show you people don’t want Europe, to I’ll make a post that will reach 500 votes, to see people are okay with European civs just not right now and it’s okay if this topic and even if it doesn’t reach 500 votes at least will eclipse this topic your 220 votes.
Quite a long way from your original assertment to be honest.
So 220 votes are puny, but 500 votes are not? Do you have a standard for what is puny and what isn’t or it’s a random number based on what you consider favorable to your cognitive bias?
From a historical perspective the game mustn’t add more Euro civs until it adds about 30 non-European. The Kingdom of Croatia (and others too) is laughable to many non-European empires and kingdoms that are not in the game.
Yes, a biased worded breakdown, not because of the options but because of the way they were worded.
It’s not my poll.
The result in your poll is similar with the result in this topic, with nearly a third in both cases not wating European civs at all.
I will tell you the same thing I told you when you pointed that out for this topic:
Do you have poll numbers for other suggestions of American or African civs? otherwise, saying that “ONLY 49.5% of people actually support is” is without essence since we don’t know what number of people support others.
You automatically assume that the number of people against other regions would be far lower, which frankly speaking, isn’t proven.