Farimba and Manipur cavalry

Age of Empires II: DE II - Discussion
#1

I really like the Malian light cavalry with farimba (primarily because the hussar is ugly,

I am confused by the fact that the Malian light cavalry kills villagers worse than the hussars because they both need 4 hits for the villager but the hussar has more attack speed and 15 more HP, why not increase the farimba bonus from 5 to 6,(then there will be 15 attacks i.e. 3 strikes) and the Manipur cavalry bonus (so stupid looking against the background of the farimba) along with the Burmese recently suffered due to the elephant nerf how about increasing it to 9 or 12?

#2

I’ve seen u spirit of the law in the top 5 scout civilizations don’t understand why Mali is so high

#3
  1. Malians are fine and don’t need a buff
  2. Farimba affects more then just light cav, it also buffs the Knight and Camel line.

because their Light Cavalry literally have 14 attack and that is a big deal in trash wars.
let’s put it in perspective…
a Malian Light Cavalry will kill a fully upgraded Hussar in 9 hits, while a Hussar will kill a Malian light Cavalry in 10 hits.

Obviously Mongols and Tatars that interaction will be different, but they straight up win against other civs Hussars, and other civs Light Cavalry.

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#4

Yes they were recently buffed

they also kill archers for 4 hits instead of 5 and get the same amount from halberdiers, 3 hits

#5

exactly, which is why they don’t need farimba changed.

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#6

this is weak, they have bad halberdiers and skirmishers and light cavalry slightly above average in combat and weaker in everything else in the end they have bad trash wars

#7

their pikes literally have 3 extra pierce armor, meaning they take less damage from skirms. (most pikes and halbs take 6 damage from an elite skirm, malian pikes take 3 damage).

you know what the most important unit in a trash war is? the light cavalry line and they have arguably top 3 of that.


Malians certainly looking bad in that trash war time, what with their winrate continuously getting better the later a game goes.

that 56% winrate in kotd3 certainly says they need buffs
#8

their pikes die for 1 shot 19 skirmishers against 10 for a normal halberdier and they don’t have a blast furnace

#9

once your pikes are in melee range those skirms aren’t doing anything.
as for 3 damage vs 6 damage,
skirms do 3+4 damage base and 3 bonus damage to spears.
malian pikes have 7 pierce armor thus they take 7 damage - 7 armor + 3 bonus damage.
so they take 3 damage each.
so forgive me if i question your 14 shots to kill.

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#10

Yes I forgot about how bonus damage is calculated