They are interested in every RTS game that comes around then go back to SC2.
Same will happen this time around.
But do go and and act like some nostradamus.
Before your next hot take: We’ll continue this “conversation” in 4-6 months. Can’t wait for the excuses.
Once again, completely baseless predictions.
Indeed its hardly a conversation because I’m clearly talking to a wall, you haven’t backed a single claim you’ve made.
Continue to make completely asinine predictions about the future of this game its quite entertaining.
No need to taunt me. The history repeats itself, and this is also nothing new for Relic.
Saying that SC2 pros are interested in this game (literally some Master level unknown randoms so far) is like saying that “this new MMO is obviously a WoW killer (this time for real!)” for the past 15 years.
There’s literally nothing big about this game that would keep SC2 “pros” around for longer.
If there is then feel free to tell me what 
So your entire argument is based on a vague platitude? “History repeats itself”
https://www.reddit.com/r/aoe4/comments/q2o6ru/list_of_notable_players_that_are_likely_to_play/
Read the list.
I’m not sure what argument you’re trying to oppose. I don’t realistically see Aoe IV “killing” any of its predecessors.
Now, will Aoe IV do at least as well as Aoe 2? It seems they will have the numbers yes.
You are getting emotional over a video game, and telling me that my arguments something something.
What are your arguments that the game is going to be big?
Oh yeah, the tournament… I’ve seen SC2/AoE2 pros participating in various “release” tournaments but it says absolutely nothing.
“It seems they will have the numbers yes” - talking about taking stuff out of my ■■■ lol
I am clearly “wrong” here because you “want it to succeed” because “yes”. That’s all.
Oh right. StarCraft 2 never had the “oopsie” moment during their huge number of balance change attempts. Raven being one unit rules all? Op infested terrans? GG lords?
AOE4 is still in beta. Be realistic. Even AOE2 today still have oopsie moments and AOE2 has been around for two decades.
You’d have to define big. Also I don’t recall making any such claim.
All im saying is it seems set to have a healthy player number at launch.
Numbers that will be around the numbers of Aoe 2. (if not more)
It shows that pro players from all around RTS are willing to play the game, undoubtedly at a high level.
Wasn’t your whole point that there was no high skill ceiling to the game?
I would recommend you watch Aussie drongo’s youtube channel.
Based off of steam chart numbers and knowing it will be on the Xbox game pass, it is a reasonable estimation to make. There’s a lot going for this game to be individually successful.
Around 100,000 people applied to play the beta, if even half of that ends up playing the game regularly Aoe IV will already be doing better than most of its predecessors.
Whereas your claims are based off of…your own word?
You are wrong because you’ve routinely failed to back any of the claims you’ve made.
I have no attachment to this game further than its ability to entertain me and others.
When it fails to do so you can expect criticism from me.
Let me pick my colour and i’m happy.
Man tell me , what’s your mission here ? Who are you trying to convince that the game is bad ,us or yourself ? You’re failing either way
Many of those pros are also content creators (yt/ttv) and testing the hot new thing is a welcome event for them and the audiences. Nothing bad about it. But as you say, if the game is meh, player numbers will die off after a few months and they move on, or back to their “bread and butter” game.
He won’t, doesn’t matter what thread, it’s all dodge and weave. Throwing “sources” in your face til you stfu xD
*hot farts. And he won’t be around to excuse anything, as typical for the zealot type.
Thats actually a good recommendation. Drongo perfectly shows how much you have to struggle to cast a game of AOE4, as it’s such a boring affair. Just watch some of those vids and how much he has to hype even the most trivial actions. Often completely omitting that it’s all stuff we saw before in AOE2/3.
The actual action comes down to raiding and small scale battles, very akin to AOE2/3 harassment, just much more shallow and clunky, since people have trouble clicking stuff and many levels of complexity are gone (e.g. AOE2 ballistics and AOE3 snaring).
Nothing against Drongo, good for him and his channel. But his AOE3 stuff is so much more enjoyable. And I don’t even like that game’s meta.
You are exagurating alot there.
There are multiple SC2 youtubers that played the Stresstest a ton, gave feedback and want to keep playing it.
The RTS community is super starved to get a new proper RTS game.
It’s not like there are any “age, c&c, sc or wc3” camps anymore.
Anyone is willing to play anything, as long as it’s a properly done project.
Everything the RTS community got in the past decade or so is CoH2, DoW3 disaster and endless remasters of old titles, so small low commitment high mindshare projects, with C&C remaster, SC/WC remasters, and all of the AoE definitive editions.
Ah yeah and there was Stronghold… But yeah nobody had big expectations about that. (Rather small mediocre franchise continuation after Crusaders).
It’s just that Age was the only title left that kept the players hope that there’s maybe still a big one coming.
WC3:R was an absolute scam, SC got completely canceled, Iron Harvest fell really hard on its’ nose and Age4 was a big secret…
I really hope for the game and for us that there is going to be a MASSIVE releasepatch with tons of features and polish at release because otherwise, the IP (the fact that it has Age in its’ name) is the only thing that speaks in its’ favour and that alone can’t be a selling point or shield for critizism (See WC3R or DoW3).
I don’t quite see what I’m exaggerating about.
This was basically my point. I just didn’t indicate any number.
If we check reddit there are tons of posts from people coming from sc2 to ask about the game/indicating interest.
I don’t quite care about the special conditions that might’ve lead them to jump ship. Hell, I hope sc2 remains to be a healthy game.
All I know is that in general, people are seeing aoe iv in a positive light, and we can expect players from many RTS games.
I still see that as a perfectly valid reason to enjoy Aoe IV.
For competitive players it’s all about depth. For casual players it’s about accessible fun. I’m pretty sure they’ve missed the mark with the former, so we’ll see if it can retain its intended audience over the long term. I’m gonna have some fun with it for a few months, that’s for sure, and maybe more, but not sure how passionate I’ll be about the game. There’s not much innovation or exciting mechanics that make me want to figure them out. Same old, same old, with a coat of painting on top in an attempt to reach new audiences.
Didn’t read the sarcasm properly, sry. 
While I may agree this is really a dumbed down AOE III with II elements, the fact remains that pro players were included in “The Community” that have helped developed this game over the last five years.
Now no one except those within “The Community” and the Devs themselves know what feedback pro players and others have given and if that was taken into consideration at all by World’s Edge.
Ok lets put it to be fair into comparison to actual modern day Strategy games.
That should tell something, considering to play those games people had actually to pay.
Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.
The point is, that maybe something proper should be done before we see the game to underperform?
The problem is, they always promise the big patch, but it never does show up or addresses the issues people have, while the game looses its momentum. While they are simply not allowed to fix the game.
Are you trying to make some kind of point with comparing these all-time peak numbers? A “fair comparison” is a giant LOL here. For one, AOE IV has not released yet. Tons of people will not have it on their radar to play in a 1 weekend beta. The other major flaw in your “fair comparison” is you are missing all the people who played via MS store - which I’d wager were the majority as it was up and running for them at least 4 hours prior to Steam going live with it. The Twitch AOE IV viewer count peaked at something like 60,000 over the weekend beta as another marker of interest.
Yeah let’s compare the number of steam players for a beta of a RTS game that has only been up for 1
weekend(without including MS store) with other rts games that were released years ago. Fair comparison in a nutshell.
Dude, those numbers are from the Stress Test. We don’t know the numbers until release in 19 days. Plus that’s just steam, AoE is a big game on the Xbox and MS apps too. MS store sucks ■■■ though, dunno why people use it instead of steam. Won’t ask, won’t judge.
I am still having hard time to admit that aoe 4 is a disaster.
I want it to be the best game and still do.
I even tryed to make my old friends comme back and play aoe4.
They just said it was a empty game mecanic or that they do not apeal for the series any more since the aoe magic is missing.
They see aoe 4 like a twisted downgrade version of aoe 2. XD
They said that at least, it is not twisted has aoe online, a cartoon world that pump players money like a casino game.
I got one of my friends to play, on my 13 friends, to play in the open beta.
He did like the game at start, but lose interess when units starting figthing each other, whit no physique, like a basic mmorpg, when the game was suposed to be a rts.
