# German Skirmisher's appearance doesn't change after upgrade to Imperial level

**URL:** <https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/german-skirmishers-appearance-doesnt-change-after-upgrade-to-imperial-level/121713>\
**Category:** III - Report a Bug\
**Created:** [March 26, 2021, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/german-skirmishers-appearance-doesnt-change-after-upgrade-to-imperial-level/121713 "2021-03-26T04:04:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![OafishOrca79821](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/oafishorca79821/32/32218_2.png) [@OafishOrca79821](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/OafishOrca79821)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/german-skirmishers-appearance-doesnt-change-after-upgrade-to-imperial-level/121713/1 "2021-03-26T04:04:03Z")

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### ▶ GAME INFORMATION

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- **GAME BUILD #:** v 100.12.21704.0
- **GAME PLATFORM:** Steam
- **OPERATING SYSTEM:** Windows 10

### ▶ ISSUE EXPERIENCED

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German Skirmisher’s appearance doesn’t change after upgrade to Imperial level, it still keeps its Guard level appearance .

Please notice that other civilization’s Skirmisher’s appearance will change after upgrade to Imperial level.

The issue is probably relate to German has “royal gurad” tech of Skirmisher, which doesn;t trigger model change correctly.

### ▶ FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

👇 _How often does the issue occur? CHOSE ONE; DELETE THE REST!_

- **100%** of the time / matches I play (ALWAYS)

### ▶ REPRODUCTION STEPS

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Here’s the steps to reproduce the issue:

1. train some Skirmisher as German civ
2. upgrade to guard level
3. upgrade to imperial level
4. you can see the appearnce doesn’t change
5. check Skirmisher of other civs, you can see the appearnce change when upgrade to imperial level.

### ▶ EXPECTED RESULT

👇 _What was SUPPOSED to happen if the bug you encountered were not present?_

German Skirmisher’s appearnce can change after upgrade to imperial level.

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**Author:** ![ArrivedLeader22](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/arrivedleader22/32/29255_2.png) [@ArrivedLeader22](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/ArrivedLeader22)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/german-skirmishers-appearance-doesnt-change-after-upgrade-to-imperial-level/121713/2 "2021-03-26T15:13:08Z")

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This happens to a lot of Royal Guard units.  
Before DE there isn’t really “Imperial model” so this looks like unfinished work.

> [@Visual/apparence/skin for jinetes dragoon](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/visual-apparence-skin-for-jinetes-dragoon/104992):
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> arrow_forward GAME INFORMATION \*\*BUILD #: v.100.12.1529.0 PLATFORM: Steam OS: Windows 10arrow_forward ISSUE EXPERIENCEDquestion DESCRIBE THE ISSUE IN DETAIL (below). Limit to ONE issue per thread. The visual/apparence/skin for the jinetes dragoon is the same than the visual for the veteran dragoon. arrow_forward FREQUENCY OF ISSUEquestion How often does the issue occur? CHOSE ONE; DELETE THE REST. 100% of the time / matches I play (ALWAYS)arrow_forward REPRODUCTION …

> [@Guard units appearance change?](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/guard-units-appearance-change/102952):
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> Noticed that the French and German Guard upgraded skirmishers look different than other skirmishers. They now have green pants and player colored coat. compared to the Spanish and Dutch skirmishers that look the same as they used to. Is this intentional? Dutch [dutch skirms] French [french skirms] Noticed the portugese dragoons have a player colored plume on their helmets instead of the regular white ones. Are there any other unique guards units like this? Somehow this seems like a bug.

And it has been there for long. Why doesn’t anyone consider this as a problem?

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**Author:** ![Inocybe2755](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/inocybe2755/32/68614_2.png) [@Inocybe2755](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Inocybe2755)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/german-skirmishers-appearance-doesnt-change-after-upgrade-to-imperial-level/121713/3 "2021-03-26T18:51:33Z")

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First, they should fix the appearance of guard units

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**Author:** ![gabryidle](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/gabryidle/32/75522_2.png) [@gabryidle](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/gabryidle)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/german-skirmishers-appearance-doesnt-change-after-upgrade-to-imperial-level/121713/4 "2021-03-30T20:10:54Z")

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I’ve been trying to focus on this issue since the release, especially with the jinete model, which I love the most. The Japanese consulate let us train the jinetes with the correct look, so I believe ignorantly that is just a copy and paste work. Maybe I’m wrong. I know that gameplay and balancing is a thing, but I’m really disappointed with this lack of attention to those details.

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**Author:** ![DirefulLily9407](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/direfullily9407/32/29258_2.png) [@DirefulLily9407](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/DirefulLily9407)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/german-skirmishers-appearance-doesnt-change-after-upgrade-to-imperial-level/121713/5 "2021-03-31T09:00:56Z")

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I have forwarded this issue to the relevant team and is now being tracked. Thanks for the reports!

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**Author:** ![gabryidle](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/gabryidle/32/75522_2.png) [@gabryidle](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/gabryidle)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/german-skirmishers-appearance-doesnt-change-after-upgrade-to-imperial-level/121713/6 "2021-03-31T12:41:38Z")

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Thanks, I really appreciate that!
