# Godi could use a buff especially when compared to Pioneers **URL:** \ **Category:** AoM - Discussion\ **Created:** [March 27, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/godi-could-use-a-buff-especially-when-compared-to-pioneers/271817 "2025-03-27T19:44:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![EricTheRed283](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ericthered283/32/178633_2.png) [@EricTheRed283](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/EricTheRed283)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/godi-could-use-a-buff-especially-when-compared-to-pioneers/271817/1 "2025-03-27T19:44:29Z")
![AoMR Pioneer vs. Godi](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/7/e/7eb1974b9b99226bfab2af205c03ce318e66f40b.png) Compare Godi from Freyr or Thor at their strongest to Pioneers from Fuxi at their strongest. What do you think? ---
**Author:** ![BornWinter52864](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/bornwinter52864/32/175448_2.png) [@BornWinter52864](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/BornWinter52864)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/godi-could-use-a-buff-especially-when-compared-to-pioneers/271817/2 "2025-03-27T20:26:48Z")
> [@EricTheRed283](#): > > ![AoMR Pioneer vs. Godi](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/7/e/7eb1974b9b99226bfab2af205c03ce318e66f40b.png) > > Compare Godi from Freyr or Thor at their strongest to Pioneers from Fuxi at their strongest. > > What do you think? Even so, the godi are useless units against any other unit that is not a mythical unit. 40 Godi vs 40 Pionners ---
**Author:** ![LuckyTiger7076](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/luckytiger7076/32/186012_2.png) [@LuckyTiger7076](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/LuckyTiger7076)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/godi-could-use-a-buff-especially-when-compared-to-pioneers/271817/3 "2025-03-27T20:34:36Z")
Well, the pioneer in your example has many more upgrades, and only thanks to them they become much stronger. Yet they still have less dps (devine damage calculation aside) So Godi could use a buff in a form of more myth techs as well. Maybe a little buff to the bonus damage, but nothing big. The comparison should not be done in a vacume: The Godi is the only classic archer the norse has. Making them too good, will result in norse practicly having an archer which goes against their design. ---
**Author:** ![EricTheRed283](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ericthered283/32/178633_2.png) [@EricTheRed283](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/EricTheRed283)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/godi-could-use-a-buff-especially-when-compared-to-pioneers/271817/4 "2025-03-27T21:04:08Z")
> [@LuckyTiger7076](#): > > Well, the pioneer in your example has many more upgrades, and only thanks to them they become much stronger. Yet they still have less dps (devine damage calculation aside) > > So Godi could use a buff in a form of more myth techs as well. Maybe a little buff to the bonus damage, but nothing big. > > The comparison should not be done in a vacume: > The Godi is the only classic archer the norse has. Making them too good, will result in norse practicly having an archer which goes against their design. It is true that Fuxi has a lot of God techs to boost it while Godi have less. The following is stuff that helps have the units be better then normal. Freyr [Godi](https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Godi): [Freyr’s Gift](https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Freyr%27s_Gift) , [Sessrumnir](https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Sessrumnir) and [Nine Waves](https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Nine_Waves) Thor [Godi](https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Godi): [Sessrumnir](https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Sessrumnir) , [Dwarven Weapons](https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Dwarven_Weapons) , [Meteoric Iron Armor](https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Meteoric_Iron_Armor) and [Dragonscale Shields](https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Dragonscale_Shields) Fuxi [Pioneer](https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Pioneer): [Celestial Weapons](https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Celestial_Weapons) , [Tai Chi](https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Tai_Chi) , [Scorching Feathers](https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Scorching_Feathers) , [Shaker of Heaven](https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Shaker_of_Heaven) and [Tempestuous Storm](https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Tempestuous_Storm)