Have you completely lost your minds? A Recast healing spring costs more than a citadel.
Healing spring 100-250-400
Citadel 150-200-250
Well. It is one of the best GP in game..
And most importantly, it’s reliable. The difference is 3 hoplites.
But seriously, nothing has changed.
This ability can cost up to 50 favor +5.
Several things
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Once you get to 2nd and past recast you are prob later in the game where norse doesnt struggle as much with getting favor.
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You are doing another simulation without taking into account unit cost so it favors hoplit
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This is not restoration, you have it for ever if you dont give it away. Healing is reduced when units are not iddle. The value of this god power is no longer mid fight to drop it on to the army and fight on it (that was very strong before and thus was nerfed). You play a value game retreating units and healing them.
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The healing stacks and its global (it doesnt heal 1 unit at a time) So if its cheap you can drop them next to each other and reach resto levels of healing but forever in that spot. Hence the cost.
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I’m sure I’ll find something to spend my favor on later in the game. Like Nidhogg or a fire weapon. That’s nonsense.
They didn’t even kill one extra hoplite.
Freyr can fill the entire map with them, not such a strong GP in the classical age.
I saw something incredible at the tournament. Chasingthesun just attacked from the other side. Crazy, right?
They weakened the GP but didn’t make it cheaper. Great.
The hoplite is not a generalist unit, the hoplite was always an anti-cavalry unit. However, the hoplite is effective against all Norse military units. Hoplites are even effective against buildings. Hoplites are broken, especially the Zeus hoplites. Berserks are currently useless units. It’s no longer worth playing with Loki or converting your villagers into berserks. Berserks are useless units that only serve to obstruct or to raid villagers. Unfortunately, the last patch ended up ruining Loki and the berserks.
More likely tha not yes, you will spend it on a heroic age god power or mythic one.
You could argue the nerf was too strong or that it can be reverted now. Either way thats not its intended curent use.
True, but also freyrs got the best things overall of the norse. Best upgrades, best god powers, and so on.
What? You have them in a key location rofl not in the middle of nowhere.
You already made a post about this and it was false then and its still false now.
You hide unit upgrades, dont give upgrades to some units but always make sure the thing you wanna complain is in its best possible moment in time and iteration. Funny you
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It’s stronger than Freyr’s. Yes.
It really does go together. (350 favor)
But its effective range is very short. I don’t see any problem with attacking such a position.
As always, you forgot that the northerners don’t have archers)))
For a GP, especially at that price, it’s too weak. It needs to be either beefed up or made cheaper.
Yea, but you can more easily stack fortress than fountains.
Yes, it does stack
Well if you put it in a corner of the map close to nothing yea i can see how you cant see it becoming an issue. You could try in a more realistic scenario while also making use of buildings, as if you wanted to actually make it work.
I get where you are coming from. But again, you are not using it in its stronger form in any of your scenarios. Its not a restoration with quick big heal value up front. Its an eternal structure that will keep your units alive if you micro well and play properly. Its a god power that pays in the long run, not in a quick skirmish.
In the long run, this wins me 10 soldiers in 20 minutes. This isn’t enough for god power. It would have been fine if it had been built as a dwarven forge.
You dont seem to pciture the scenario. You can raid with hersir an then heal them back, if you get calv units, same thing. If you think the only armies that can hit and retreat are chariot archers then theres a skill issue.
You are meassuring it by fighting on top of it rofl and bad fighting at that. Instead of simply retreating units through the game, healing them back and then doing again. If you want a game for this, check any of gaboo. He does it all the time as loki. Pokes, retreats and heals.
All you are doing is A move into another army watch it play like a cinematic and then complain that the 75% healing penalty of units healiing in combat is a penalty. Well yea…. thats the whole point.
I get most players get “bored” of fighting smartly pocking and retreating, its more fun to just clash armies, but then you are picking the wrong god power. You put this in a spot you are defending with buildings, you poke your opponent and retreat to heal, healing without the combat penalty, then keep repeating. Its slow? Yes. Is it less flashy than bronce resto and GGs? Yes. Should you prob try something different if that playstyle isnt for you? Yes.
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I don’t have the chariots to fight like that. If you retreat with melee units, you’ll only lose more. This is simply a very poor overpriced replacement for Valkyries.