[Helping weak civs] some minor ideas for improvements

[DoctBaghi]

I already expain here why it’s not a good idea:

@DoctBaghi

Portos 15% gold discount
I’ll start to explain why, in my opinion, their main bonus, the 15% gold discount, is good, but not that strong/helpful for their main problems.
Less gold helps in the late game for 1v1, but in the previus ages gold isn’t that important resources (and it’s there when it’s more likely for them to lose the game), I’ll try to explain by confronting it with the bonus of the bizzantines and koreans.
The bizz comparison is simple, their cheap units are discounted on all resources, so that bonus actually helps to train more units, while the portos save on gold, but still pay the full price on wood/food, that acts as a block for producing more units.
As for the koreans’ bonus, 15% less wood actually helps a lot more than 15% less gold, that because wood is a much more important resources, expecially in the feudal/castle age, that is because it’s a resources that is needed in a lot more fields than gold. When you think about it, wood is needed for bulding, military units, ships, techs in a greater mesure than than gold, and last but not least wood is needed for farms, so indirectly it helps for food too. On the other hand, in feudal/castle gold is less important and more accessible.
All that to explain why they don’t need a buff to that bonus, it’s a helpful bonus, but porto’s problem is that it’s not enaugh alone, yes it means that in dark/faudal you can have 1 less vill on gold, but it’s not that strong of a bonus untill late game, when also other porto’s bonus comes to help.

Also, even extending the bonus to techs it isn’t the best buff they can receive.

@Szebo210

Gunpowder units in castle age is not just historically unaccurate but really op aswell (I know that some civs have gunpowder units as UU).

I never sayid that they would receive HC, BBC or BBT, just chemistry. The bonus would be that they already have when hitting imp and that in castle age their archers would have +1 attack.

@Szebo210

You don’t need feitoria in castle age, would be too op, you could suddenly gain a so huge population advantage that would break the game’s balance.

It sould be balanced of course (in my topic I post some ideas to do so).

@Szebo210

Gold discount extended to the technologies is just a kind of copy of the chinese bonus. There is nothing wrong with the gold discount bonus anyways, it is a decent late game bonus.

It would be weaker than chinese I know, and it’s problem is that it helps only in the late game, after imp.

@Szebo210

-Buff organ guns

There was a reason if they nerf them.

@Szebo210

-Their Imperial Age unqiue tech arquebus should give gunpowder units better accuracy besides giving them ballistics

It’s still the same problem, it comes in late.

Buff to the portughese

Continuing the discussion about the civs that needs some balance, in order to see them more online, the portos to me are one (if not the one) that needs a buff. Portos 15% gold discount I’ll start to explain why, in my opinion, their main bonus, the 15% gold discount, is good, but not that strong/helpful for their main problems. Less gold helps in the late game for 1v1, but in the previus ages gold isn’t that important resources (and it’s there when it’s more likely for them to lose the gam…