Free armor helps in early imp. Not late imp. By late imp its already researched by everyone, and the advantage is neutralized and italians are where they are strongest.
Projectile speed increase provides benefits others dont have, reduces the benefit of ballistics and boosts their late game beyond where it already is.
OK then Foot Archer projectiles 100% faster from Castle Age?
Now? Is there still no dfference? really? 
If you just read my post with some accuracy and sane criticism you would already know why.
Now youâre just being ridiculous.
You said there will be not much difference once Ballistics comes in
So I just increased the projectile speed even further
Now tell me if even at 2x the speed , is there really no benefit? no benefit to GC?? No benefit to xbow??
Ad hominems galore, no logic and no arguments are required to discredit someone
I tried to post a question on Koreans.
What if they get 20% wood discount not applied to siege and siege workshop costing 100w? Is this better than 15% applied to siege as well?
Do you seriously think anyone would consider 100% invrease in projectiles speed is a legitimately good buff?
They wont, I know, i used it as a hypothetical for the purpose of making my argument.
Abstract Reasoning 101
I tried to post a question on Koreans.
What if they get 20% wood discount not applied to siege and siege workshop costing 100w? Is this better than 15% applied to siege as well?
15% on all military is almost the same thing, and its succinct and precise
Although either is good idea
I support both
I like this idea a lot
But why, if you really read my replies you would see that itâs not how fast the projectiles are the problem, but the bonu itself, it seems that you are just saying numbers at random.
Now Iâll explain one more time, after researching ballistics, if you donât increase the rate of fire (the number of arrows an archer fire) you donât benefit from faster arrow, because they will however hit their target with ballistics, so you can even spped it up to 200% but the only effect you would have is that you wonât see the arrows, but the damage and accuracy would still be the same.
Also thisâŠ
Sorry, you are right, we lost ourselves in a pointless discussion, since he doesnât want to listen.
It could work, but it would be better to give them 10% disc. on siege, in my opinion is more consistent.
And yet when I tried to do tgat to you, you flagged me for it. Food for thought.
His argument was valid. Increased projectile speed means it gets to its target faster and is less likely to miss. This impacts the power of ballistics. Does it remove it? No. But it makes it less of a priority
You are taking us off-topic yet again @MatCauthon3, during that time, you brought up games I never even heard of, and it was completely off topic.
It is a compromise. Better than wood discount on siege in castle, worse in late imp. But we want a better castle age buff, right?
Nope this is simply not true, for HC, they will become more accurate.
For Xbows and GC, they will hit Cavalry more often
even after ballistics
Not to mention at the PRO level, it will render dancing splits less useful(which you agree on)
For units that move really fast(cavalry) even ballistics arrows fall short of them sometimes. If you look very closely.
and before ballistics, it is a good bonus, Iâm sure you agree on that
Better in the long run for them but they need castle age help more imo
Not if im using it to reference game design as it applies to aoe2. Which I was.
OK fine. Weâ'll talk in private. All I want to do here is discuss the weak civiliztions, and currently the topic is Italians and Koreans.
I still propose this as the solution to the Italiansâ woes
Foot Archer Projectiles move 30% faster as civ bonus, due to the reasons listed above in my talk with @DoctBaghi
Listen, I back up yesterday on the Tscorps, because the majority was in favor, but I at least bring up arguments in my favor, you just ignore our answers in order to prove your point and hide behind the fact that âin your opinionâ pros would agree with you.
The HC have a low base accuracy, it means that 50% of the time the shot is inaccurate from the time of leaving the cannons, faster speed would mean faster missing.
GC already have near 100% accuracy even before TR, and, as I already said, it would still be a small window of time with a effect weaker than ballistics.
No, because itâs a game for everyone, not just for pros, and it only further proves my point, that you donât play but only watch.
I donât, itâs weaker effect of a tech you will however get, and it is only for a small period of time.
Well, yes itâs pro and cons.
did I not bring up arguments in my favour?
Then what was all this for? eh?
Who is really ignoring who? I wonder
I had to repeat at least 4 time my arguments vs your idea, and after that you considered about half of them, and joked about wanting to increase it to 100% (which only you understand that joke).
I replied to all your considerations, fell free to let me know if I missed some of them and point them.