You never heard about Vikings?
I may have mentionned them later in the message.
@Temudhun See. Look at @DukeOfLorraine Itâs this type of person I was talking about. Despite posting so much information he still denies existence of women in history.
Youâve got me, I actually believe they appeared out of thin air within living memory and all mentions before that is some fabrication to hide that, biology be damned ![]()
Dudes, please, discuss with respect and about aoe saga and his historical context.
Maybe not a unique unit per se, but perhaps the horse archers of nomadic civilizations could have both male and female voicelines?
They shouldnât even be Malian, itâs like making Cossacks Italian. Make a Benin civ.
It wouldnât be quite historical. Women had to know how to ride and fight to defend themselves, but only as most of the men were away during campaigns so they were the most fit to defend the rest of the tribe, canât ask much from children and the elderly after all. As opposed to settled societies in which only a small fraction of the men are levied, and you can rely on walls and castles for protection anyway. They wouldnât be frontline units.
The closest would be having their villagers able of taking up arms against raids, which would come at the expense of fortifications.
Probably right. I know that women did fight during Scythian times, but no idea whether it carried over to the Turco-Mongol era of the Steppe.
Most likely they were limited to defence while the men were away (and it would remain the same as long as steppe tribes existed), but as the idea of a woman taking up arms was unthinkable to the Greeks, by exageration it became the Amazons.
Well then you can remove Heracles from the greek culture because he is a Scythian and since they donât exist according to you. Thatâs a start and then the centaurs. The amazons. Penthasilea, Hipolyta etc. Maybe you want to delete Age of Mythology too ha?
Shieldmaidens and onna-bugeisha can legitimately be considered unique units because of their common appearances throughout history.
Would love to see more interesting female warriors that can be included in the campaigns:
Saracens - Khawla-bint al-Azwar - warrior and general of the Rashidun Caliphate who is a companion of Prophet Muhammad and considered as one of the greatest female soldiers in history
Chinese - Chen Shuozen - led a peasant uprising and declared herself empress becoming the first female rebel leader to assume the title of empress
Aztecs - Xochitl - empress of the Toltecs who mobilized a battalion composed of entirely women
Incas - Quilago - was the princess of the Caranqui people who resisted Incan invasion led by Huayna Capac. She was defeated and forced to marry Huayna Capac
Mayans - Lady Six Sky - queen of Naranjo, depicted as a warrior queen
Khitans - Xiao Yanyan - empress dowager and renowned military commander
Sicilians - Sikelgaita - she should have a warrior model accompanying Robert Guiscard in his campaigns
Burgundians - Florine of Burgundy - a crusader who died fighting alongside her husband in an ambush
Teutons - Ida of Austria - another crusader who had her own army who died fighting in an ambush
Hindustanis - Razia Sultan - the only Muslim female sultan in Delhiâs history who led her troops in battle
Dravidians - Rudrama Devi - Kakatiya queen regnant who also led her troops in battle
Gurjaras - Rani Durgavati - queen regent of Gondwana who leads her people against the Mughal invasion
Byzantines - Irene Asanina - an empress consort known for being a capable ruler in organizing defenses during sieges
Magyars - Cecilia Rozgonyi - a Hungarian noblewoman who fought against the Ottomans by commanding a division of ships
Italians - Beatrice dâEste - duchess of Bari and Milan who led the Milanese resistance against the invading French
Spanish - Maria Pacheco - one of the revolutionary leaders in the Revolt of the Comuneros
Portuguese - Isabel Madeira - captain of a battalion of female combatants who defended Diu from the Ottomans
Japanese - Maeda Matsu - Maeda clan noblewoman who participated in the military expeditions of the Maeda clan, and is known to be a skilled fighter
It was unthinkable for Athenians, but from what I heard it could happen in the cities of the Anatlolian coast. We tend to think of all Greeks as a homogene culture but the image we have in mind is mostly one specific city in one specific time period.
Athens had the luxury of being safe from existential threats, a big buffer of other city-states from the north, other Greeks from the rest of Greece and the sea from other directions. Even the Persians were quite chill.
The chances of having women taking up arms was directly correlated with how serious a defeat would be.
Its a shame that DotD did not add hussite rebels we could have had men and women armed with flails and other improvised weapons.even the cut scenes say about women taking the fight to knights.
If the South American DLC is real, we could get a Tapuya / Tucanoan civ with female warriors.
In case devs deem them âunworthyâ, perhaps the Omagua (who used to build cities along the Amazon until the old world diseases decimated them) could get something like âTapuya mercenariesâ as special units with female skins. Or if the only option to get Amazonian stuff is a wide umbrella, then I guess they could combine Marajoara, Omagua, and Tapuya into âAmazoniansâ.
In the Scenario Editor, Iâd like to see at least one female unit for most types of (non-siege, non-ship) military units. Currently missing ones are:
- armour-clad swordswoman (dismounted Joan of Arc could be used)
- javelineer/skirmisher
- gunner
- light cavalry
- camel rider
- elephant rider
How would this differ from a normal unit unless the head is not coverd?armor is just armor there is no male or female version of it.
Not necessarily full-body armour. Itâs only that the sole swordswoman (Joan the Maid and derivates) lacks any visible armour.
We need more female heroes with unique skins. Sanyogita. Sikelgaita, Jacqueline of Hainault, Isabella the Catholic, Empress Irene/Zoe of Byzantium, Wu Zetian of Tang, Viking Shieldmaidens, Eleanor of Aquitaine, Empress Matilda, Shajar Al Dur of the Mamluks and Razia Sultana of the Delhi Sultanate. Here, lets have them. Not to mention civilisation set Queen models.