# Ideas for new DLC aimed at the americas

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**Created:** [December 24, 2020, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ideas-for-new-dlc-aimed-at-the-americas/112118 "2020-12-24T17:36:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![EdgarSamuelON](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/edgarsamuelon/32/54431_2.png) [@EdgarSamuelON](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/EdgarSamuelON)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ideas-for-new-dlc-aimed-at-the-americas/112118/1 "2020-12-24T17:36:11Z")

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If there was a new DLC aimed at American civilizations (North, South and Central America), which civilizations should be present, in your opinion?

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**Author:** ![FurtherLime7936](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/furtherlime7936/32/113417_2.png) [@FurtherLime7936](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/FurtherLime7936)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ideas-for-new-dlc-aimed-at-the-americas/112118/2 "2020-12-24T17:37:26Z")

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Chimus, Muiscas, Taino, Araucans.

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**Author:** ![CheshireWig3203](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/cheshirewig3203/32/76099_2.png) [@CheshireWig3203](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/CheshireWig3203)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ideas-for-new-dlc-aimed-at-the-americas/112118/3 "2020-12-24T18:02:05Z")

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That is the perfect South African DLC I imagined. If devs release 2-2 civs each time, then: Chimu-Araucans and Muiscans-Caribs with 1-1 new architecture.

Walls of the Chimu capital city, Chan Chan: ![image](https://cdn.ageofempires.com/aoe-forums/original/3X/4/7/47d478bce65bed9e27517812f07561e7be52f9ae.jpeg)  
Inca architecture:  
 ![image](https://cdn.ageofempires.com/aoe-forums/original/3X/f/a/fa9a46e41b3accffec42ccf7560f89e02fd7531c.jpeg)  
Muisca village:  
 ![image](https://cdn.ageofempires.com/aoe-forums/original/3X/7/d/7dbe1338035e3c8398d1ea8958b1a5527ed3fde1.jpeg)  
Carib Karbay:  
 ![image](https://cdn.ageofempires.com/aoe-forums/original/3X/e/2/e21817d530f3c81aa115f32e35765f27699d7735.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Mahazona](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/mahazona/32/213405_2.png) [@Mahazona](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Mahazona)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ideas-for-new-dlc-aimed-at-the-americas/112118/4 "2020-12-24T18:02:05Z")

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Inuit and mississippians.

But from a european view the major 3 empires are already covered.

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**Author:** ![Gaturro7777](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/gaturro7777/32/61694_2.png) [@Gaturro7777](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Gaturro7777)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ideas-for-new-dlc-aimed-at-the-americas/112118/5 "2020-12-24T18:14:28Z")

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The only civ interesting to me (thats not already in Game) is the araucanos

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**Author:** ![EdgarSamuelON](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/edgarsamuelon/32/54431_2.png) [@EdgarSamuelON](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/EdgarSamuelON)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ideas-for-new-dlc-aimed-at-the-americas/112118/6 "2020-12-24T19:30:52Z")

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I would like to see with the following civilizations: 1 Sulamericana: Mapuches (Araucans), using a new Andean architecture and sharing with the Incas. 2 or at least 1 North American: with an exclusive architecture native North Americans Iroquois or mississippianos (my first choice because I haven’t been represented in any game yet) or Pueblos or some other North American native. To have a balance two civilizations from each america (south, central and north american). For those who say that this would make the game anachronistic, who said that the developers could not work with new expansions, beyond the period of 1500 AD (it is an expansion and therefore it can go beyond)? they could also work with new units as a new update for the hand cannon (as an example: arcabuz). but I would like to hear more ideas from you too. what would you like to see besides civilizations? which unique technologies? which unique units?

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**Author:** ![EdgarSamuelON](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/edgarsamuelon/32/54431_2.png) [@EdgarSamuelON](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/EdgarSamuelON)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ideas-for-new-dlc-aimed-at-the-americas/112118/7 "2020-12-24T19:35:05Z")

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I would also love to see the Mapuche in the age of empires 2: they are a warrior people that still fight to this day (From the Inca expansionism to today).

> **[Mapuches](https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mapuches)**
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> modifier Les Mapuches (littéralement « Peuple de la terre » en mapudungun) sont un groupe ethnique et peuple autochtone du Chili et d'Argentine formant plusieurs communautés,connues également sous le nom d'Araucans (cette dernière dénomination ayant été donnée par les Espagnols aux autochtones peuplant originellement la région historique d’Araucanie),. Au sens strict, le terme Mapuches désigne les Amérindiens habitant l’Araucanie ou Arauco, coïncidant grosso modo à l’actuelle région administra...

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**Author:** ![cly0806](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/cly0806/32/109043_2.png) [@cly0806](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/cly0806)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ideas-for-new-dlc-aimed-at-the-americas/112118/8 "2020-12-25T02:04:08Z")

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YOU must find a wonder for it,if it does not have a wonder these civs can impossible be released,and there is no need to discuss.

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**Author:** ![JonOli12](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/jonoli12/32/50441_2.png) [@JonOli12](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/JonOli12)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2020, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ideas-for-new-dlc-aimed-at-the-americas/112118/9 "2020-12-25T02:06:54Z")

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The Huns do not even have a Wonder. Their Wonder is a sacked Roman Victory Arch.  
So you can perfectly have civs with no real Wonders.

I think people underestimate how much Huns bent the requirements to be a civ in AoE2, and the precedent they set.

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**Author:** ![Mahazona](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/mahazona/32/213405_2.png) [@Mahazona](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Mahazona)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2020, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ideas-for-new-dlc-aimed-at-the-americas/112118/10 "2020-12-25T02:41:24Z")

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Indeed the only line we can draw is that the civi had any contact with two or more ingame civis.Even that is debatable sometime with meso civis.

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2020, 3:47am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ideas-for-new-dlc-aimed-at-the-americas/112118/11 "2020-12-25T03:47:35Z")

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Not even that. The Incas are very isolated in the AoE2 world. They are nowhere close to the Mayans or Aztecs, nor have they ever truly fought them.

The only real requirement, is actually having relevance to the period, and whatever the devs want to introduce.

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2020, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ideas-for-new-dlc-aimed-at-the-americas/112118/14 "2020-12-25T06:27:28Z")

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Must admire him for making such a long list.

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**Author:** ![Parthnan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/parthnan/32/55505_2.png) [@Parthnan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Parthnan)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2020, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ideas-for-new-dlc-aimed-at-the-americas/112118/15 "2020-12-25T06:49:03Z")

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Juggernaut helped with this one, only the shorter one before was mine 😝

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**Author:** ![Julix3748](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/julix3748/32/116673_2.png) [@Julix3748](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Julix3748)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ideas-for-new-dlc-aimed-at-the-americas/112118/16 "2020-12-26T06:41:16Z")

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None. The American tribes aren’t relevant enough in the timeframe of the game to appear, and I say this as a Latin-American myself  
Hell, even the Aztec, Maya and Incas are ridiculous enough with their full plate champions, crossbowmen and trebuchets  
Also, most big players of the continent are isolated or their neighbors aren’t distinct enough, like, just look at the Pachacuti campaign, it’s literally just Incas  
I’d rather have more Asian, African and even eastern European civs in AoE2, you should suggest civs from the Americas for AoE3  
That being said, Mapuches for AoE3 would be sick, I mean, I would love a whole new Age game about the Napoleonic Era and the revolutions of the countries of the Americas (I mean, I know of both AoE3 mods that covet this, but it would be cool to be official, kinda surprised they didn’t do what they did with FE for them and included them in AoE3:DE, but I’m getting off topic)

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**Author:** ![JonOli12](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/jonoli12/32/50441_2.png) [@JonOli12](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/JonOli12)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ideas-for-new-dlc-aimed-at-the-americas/112118/17 "2020-12-26T06:49:46Z")

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> [@Julix3748](#):
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> None. The American tribes aren’t relevant enough in the timeframe of the game to appear, and I say this as a Latin-American myself

But they are.

> [@Julix3748](#):
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> Hell, even the Aztec, Maya and Incas are ridiculous enough with their full plate champions, crossbowmen and trebuchets

Gameplay conventions. AoE3 tried to do it differently, and got even more ridiculous, with Aztec Skull Knights going naked into battle, taking a cannon ball, and not even slowing their stride.

I guess the Blood God shields them, or something…

> [@Julix3748](#):
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> Also, most big players of the continent are isolated or their neighbors aren’t distinct enough, like, just look at the Pachacuti campaign, it’s literally just Incas

North American civs would be majorly distinct from Meso and south american civs.

> [@Julix3748](#):
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> you should suggest civs from the Americas for AoE3

AoE3 is a failure, and the less effort devs put into taht game, the more they can put into AoE2, which is actually the best in thr franchise, and the easiest to sell DLC to.

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**Author:** ![Scintilus](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/scintilus/32/211659_2.png) [@Scintilus](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Scintilus)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ideas-for-new-dlc-aimed-at-the-americas/112118/18 "2020-12-26T07:09:51Z")

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> [@JonOli12](#):
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> AoE3 is a failure, and the less effort devs put into taht game, the more they can put into AoE2, which is actually the best in thr franchise, and the easiest to sell DLC to.

I humbly disagree with you regarding AoE 3 as a failure. It may not be a blockbuster but it is a game of its own. Tbh AoE 3 DE should be the one getting more civs than AoE 2 DE.

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ideas-for-new-dlc-aimed-at-the-americas/112118/19 "2020-12-26T07:14:52Z")

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I disagree. With it’s rapidly vanishing playerbase, any expansion to AoE3 DE may not sell very well, while with AoE2 DE, DLC is sure money.

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ideas-for-new-dlc-aimed-at-the-americas/112118/20 "2020-12-26T07:16:54Z")

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I mean, I’d rather have civilizations that actually interacted with other civilizations that appear in the game, that’s what I mean by “relevant”  
The civs from the Americas didn’t interact with any other civ in the game until after the main timeframe of AoE2

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ideas-for-new-dlc-aimed-at-the-americas/112118/21 "2020-12-26T07:20:32Z")

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> [@JonOli12](#):
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> I disagree. With it’s rapidly vanishing playerbase, any expansion to AoE3 DE may not sell very well, while with AoE2 DE, DLC is sure money.

I’m not thinking in terms of profit this time despite its importance for Microsoft. I’m saying that AoE 3 can still have a decent community of its own despite the popularity of AoE 2. In terms of DLCs, AoE 3 is the one that really requires DLC the most without dividing the community. Just look at the backlash at the choices of civ and the implementation of new civs between AoE 2 DE’s community.

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**Author:** ![CheshireWig3203](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/cheshirewig3203/32/76099_2.png) [@CheshireWig3203](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/CheshireWig3203)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ideas-for-new-dlc-aimed-at-the-americas/112118/22 "2020-12-26T10:16:23Z")

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> [@Julix3748](#):
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> Pachacuti campaign, it’s literally just Incas

It’s not just Incas. It’s Incas, Chimus and Chankas.

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