Its confirmed - NO MESOAMERICAN / AMERICAN CIVS

Most of your views are wrong and extreme, and you are lazy to reply. With so few people in Europe, can’t imagine the scale of the Asian battlefield. What the Mongols bring to the Europeans is killing, not Saviour. You seem to worship the Mongols. How many nationalities did China defeat? You choose to ignore the Huns who brought great trouble to Europe. After being defeated by the Chinese, some Turks moved to Central Asia and Eastern Europe.

Because there was this little thing called THE ENLGIHTENMENT??? And EUROPEAN GOLDEN AGE? :smiley: :smiley:

Even the muslims/middle east HAD their AGE OF ENLIGHTENMNET and GOLD AGE… Before the FELL INTO RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALISM… And banned anything that did NOT adhere to their fundamentalist teachings. :wink:

Which is basically what IRAN did in the 1970’s. :smiley: :smiley:

No, they are historically referencing, and quite moderate.

Yes, we can, we just find it unecessary. we could replicate all that destruction, with fewer troops, and we would not even need to kill so many civilians.

Yet they got murdered in Hungary.

I do not ignore them, they beat the Romans, until the Romans withered down Atilla’s Horde, and he went back after talking to the Pope.

Also, that is not the Middle Ages.

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So? GUNS BEAT STICKS. :smiley: :smiley:

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Yes, but the issue is, Steel Spears beat Obsidian Spears.

Therefore, the backward Chinese defeated the United Nations led by the United States in the Korean War, including many Europeans. Take the United States as the representative to sign the armistice treaty.

So China wasn’t as developed as they claim since Europe caught up rather easily

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No, they did not, as evidenced by the fact that South Korea exists, and is in a much better state than North Korea.

But again, not Middle Ages.

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ENLGIHTENMENT was just natural progression of ideas from RENAISSANCE and not something which fell from the sky or was brought by some foreign invader.

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You don’t know the Chinese people. They know that if they are belligerent, they will lose, so when they are good, they will stop and maintain the status quo. Do the right thing according to your own national conditions. It’s the same with Vietnam, India and the Soviet Union. It’s all defensive and counterattack. Just let the other side know their strength and determination. Give them a lesson and stop. Chinese history is a history of war. There is a lot of wisdom in it. Maybe you don’t understand it.

What I understand, is that you lost the historical argument, and are now trying to make a moral one.

I debate History, not Morality, in these forums.

“I am offended” is not an acceptable defence.

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WRONG!!! The FIRST CONTINUALLY OPERATING UNIVERSITY. Was in Fez, Morocco, and was founded approximately 900 AD. :smiley: :smiley:

If you accept and ignore that the university was used as a mosque for over 1,000 years and was only converted into a university at approximately 1950’s. :smiley: :smiley:

ACTUALLY, the Black Death came from ASIA. It is there NOT possible to say, with certainty, that the Black Death came from china SPECIFICALLY. :smiley: :smiley:

This is from wikipedia

The origin of the Black Death is disputed. The pandemic originated either in Central Asia or East Asia but its first definitive appearance was in Crimea in 1347.[6] From Crimea, it was most likely carried by fleas living on the black rats that travelled on Genoese slave ships, spreading through the Mediterranean Basin and reaching Africa, Western Asia and the rest of Europe via Constantinople, Sicily and the Italian Peninsula. There is evidence that once it came ashore, the Black Death was in large part spread by fleas – which cause pneumonic plague – and the person-to-person contact via aerosols which pneumonic plague enables, thus

Nope, The very first was in Constantinople, in the 5th century AD, the Pandidakterion.

Blogna is the oldest in continuous operation.
Fez was not in continuous operation to this day, like Blogna has been.

Europeans not only made the very first Academies and Universities (Academia was literally named after a mount in Athens), but also have the oldest still in operation.

Sorry, but an university made in the 900s, is not older than one made in the 400s.

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What are you even talking about? What does “fell from the sky” or “brought by foreign invaders” have to do with anything?

You LITERALLY went on a tangent that has ABSOLUTELY NO CONNECTION with the topic being discussed. :smiley: :smiley:

Also, when did anythign that was stated hav anything to do with the CAUSE of the ENLIGHTENMENT or the GOLDEN AGE? I NEVER MENTIONED anything about the CAUSE. ONLY that IT HAPPENED. :smiley: :smiley:

Sorry but i took the time travel course in the university of ancient egypt in 3,000 BC. So you are WRONG. :smiley: :smiley:

Also, do they teach the concept of a joke a twhatever university you went too? :wink: :smiley: :smiley:

In 71 BC, the first official university in the history of the world was located in Jixia Academy in Zibo, Shandong Province, China. You are talking about Universities in the modern sense.

I went to no University. I went to a trade school, instead.
No, University is a latin word, Egypt had various schools, but no Universities. Unis only started appearing in the Middle Ages.

There was no such thing as an University in 3000 BC.

Are you stupid? It DOES NOT take as much effort or time, when the GROUND WORK as already been done. :smiley: :smiley:

Just look at china today, compared to china before it decided to slightly embrace capitalism. Hongkong was one of the richest places in the world, and china was one of the poorest countries in the world. The capacity to “catch up”", has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with “how far behind” one supposedly is. :smiley: :smiley:

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Maybe if you went to university. Then you would KNOW WHAT A JOKE IS. :smiley: :smiley:

Side note- Yes that was a joke. Also, the sentence about Fez, Morroco, was ALSO a joke, albeit, probably not a good one. Lol. :smiley: :smiley:

Also, just because something is NOT called a “university”. Does not mean, that a specific institution, does not “function” in a similar way to a university. :smiley: :smiley:

Remember the old adage? “A rose by any other name, smells just as sweet”. :smiley: :smiley:

Why are you comparing an ANCIENT university that is NOT equivalent to a MODERN university, then? :smiley: :smiley: