I would love to see the Kanabo Warrior from AoE4 as a second unique unit for the Japanese or as a regional if the japanese is reworked/splitted
They dont need to be split or changed,Can you please post all your ideas in one topic and not clutter the forum?
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I can also respond in kind but will let the mods decide.
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Just make them an optional reskin of the militia line, why rework stuff when reskin works fine 
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I don’t see regional skins for a long time in AoE2, if that even become a thing, because it’s easier for the devs to have regional lines that replaces the generic ones. It feels more refreshing than just a reskin, just how the Champi replaces the militia in South American civs.
Coming up with new stats for a new unit easier than making a graphical reskin? I doubt that heavily. And thank the gods monks received reskins instead of being split into shamans, clerics, imams, and whatever.
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Well, imagine one reskin for each architecture/region, similar to the monk.
That’s 10 skins for an entire line of units. Now that for each of the generic lines of all type of units (infantry, cavalry, ranged, naval, siege, even villagers).
Quite a mess to memorize each, instead making a single line of units for 3 civs, if Japanese are even splitted or reworked like Persians in TMR. For example: North Japan (Tohoku), Central Japan (current Japanese civ) and South Japan (Kyushu). They can share the Kanabo line as replacement of the militia line.
Just saying…
You still aren’t addressing your spamming. please PLEASE stop suffocating us
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They aren’t an indie studio making games in their free time, they receive millions in sales and are owned by Microsoft (one of the richest tech giants in the world). They have money to make unique skins and architecture sets not just for groups of civs but for each individual civ. Not that they should, but they could if they really wished.
And once the skins are made, the job is done. Compare it with adding new units, which need to be constantly kept in mind with each DLC and balance patch (otherwise you end up with hiccups like the unforeseen Fire Lancer + Siege Tower combo)
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Kanabo seems like a weirdly niche choice for a Japanese unique/regional unit. Like, I don’t think anyone playing Japanese thinks to themselves “this civ doesn’t feel Japanese enough because it doesn’t have kanabo samurai”.
Why would you split Japanese like that? How would the three civs differ from each other and what would they be called?
The thing I mind is not the spam, but the lack of any suggestion beyond the visuals. The suggestion is that kanabo samurai will replace the militia line for Japanese, but with no idea of how they would differ in terms of stats.
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By definition it is low effort.
Because it doesn’t discuss the why, the how and the intricacies that such a unit could bring pros cons and other interesting neutral trivia would mean yes there’s a real discussion but this is… just nothing ergo tantamount to spam
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I wasn’t talking about how hard could be for MS to do it, but for the players to memorize 10 different regional skins for all units. That’s the point
With regional unit skins, you can give a kanabo to the japanese champion.
And you think that memorizing dozens of regional units would be easier?
Easier than 10 whole sets of regional skins. If players already are complaining about the different castles, monasteries and monks skins, what could happen with all the unit lines?
And besides, if the devs really wanted regional skins, then they would stop making so many regional units, specially since TTK.
Regional units are the only way in the short time at least to have regional skins. Maybe in the future could happen.
So why is this unit NEEDED!? What does it do that Japan needs such a unit for?
To better phrase this question: we could do this but SHOULD we do this for a deeper reason other than muh histories
Because it could be a second unique unit or regional unit for an eventual Japanese rework or split.
All the civs that were either splitted or reworked gained a new unit:
Persians: Savar (not a regional but unique upgrade)
Inca: Champi, Slinger (turned regional but before unique)
Chinese and Koreans: Long Chuan, Fire Lancer, Rocket Cart, Dragon Ship (unique upgrade for Chinese)
DOI civs: Armored Elephant, Elephant Archer
We like it or not, eventually most of the Ensenble Studios civs will be reworked and/or splitted in order to introduce new civs with regional aesthetics. Japanese, Saracens, Vikings, Celts, Aztecs… to mention few
Thats a COULD reason but not a SHOULD! It doesn’t really get at a deeper issue with the design of Japanese as a civ or region. If anything you wanna know the one Japanese regional I want to see: the Usho fishing boat. A boat that gathers fish but sends a cormorant bird to deliver food to the dock while the boat continues to gather. It isn’t auto drop, not at all. In fact it’s possible to be far enough away from a Dock thy the bird (which can fly over land) needs the boat to start travelling back so it can load the birds mouth with more foods
Is this a cool design? Thats an opinion question. Is it interesting? Also opinion? Is it necessary? Definitely not! But would it be fun? Depends who you ask! But it’s more interesting than just “look at this game add it now. No I won’t go into detail!”
I also don’t like how Savars are one civ only when other Persian neighbors or Iranic peoples could be fitting for access to it
Champi and slinger are interesting. The slinger needs to be all those anti units because the eagle that Champi replaces isn’t all those units. And while they aren’t shock units they tend to lose cost and pop efficiently vs equal or even 1 age behind swordsmen so slings need to concuss the infantry and the siege and the monks
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That could deppends how many civs could being splitted from the Japanese, plus the Japanese civ rework.
In the best scenario, the Japanese can have the same treatment of the Persians in TMR: two new civs derivated from the original one, plus a sighty rework. All can share aesthetics, regional units and maybe the Japanese itself a unique upgrade for the militia line in the form of the Kanabo Warrior, with the corresponding gimmick… or being a regional unit for all the japanese derivated civs.
It’s just a question of time. Celts could be splitted into Picts, Scotts and Irish, Aztecs into Miztecs, Zapotecs and Tlaxcaltecs, Vikings into Norse, Danes and Swedes… only time will tell but it’s seems it will be inevitable.
My problem is this one
- why you would want to split Japanese anyway? Do we really want a 3K situation?
Japanese at this point are fine as it is. And as DynasticPlanet pointed out, it is not worth adding a regional unit just for the sake of it. The only thing that I honestly want to change for Japanese would be remaking the model for the Mounted Samurai to be…well, a samurai on a horse.
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