Let’s talk to Cossack history

Cossack Regalia (Kleinody)[edit]

Of right let’s talk of the Zaporozhian Cossacks’s battles with story bandura

The most important items of the host were the Cossack Kleinody [16] (always in plural; related to Imperial Regalia) that consisted of valuable military distinctions, regalia, and attributes of the Ukrainian Cossacks and were used until the 19th century. Kleinody were awarded to Zaporozhian Cossacks by the Polish king Stephen Báthory[16] on 20 August 1576[17] to Bohdan Ruzhynsky, among which were khoruhva, bunchuk, bulawa “mace” and a seal with a coat of arms on which was depicted a cossack with a samopal “rifle”.[16] The kleinody were assigned to hetman’s assistants for safekeeping, thus there have appeared such ranks as chorąży (“flag-bearer”), bunchuzhny (“staff-keeper”), etc. Later part of Cossack kleinody became pernaches, timpani (lytavry), kurin banners (badges), batons, and others.[16]

The highest symbol of power was the bulawa or mace carried by hetmans and kish-otamans.[16] For example, Bohdan Khmelnytsky already from 1648 carried a silver gold-covered bulawa decorated with pearls and other valuable gem stones.[16] The cossack colonels had pernachs (shestopers) - smaller ribbed bulawas which were carried behind a belt.[16]

Cossack army in 1648[citation needed]

The seal of the Zaporozhian Host was produced in a round form out of silver with a depiction of cossack in a gabled cap on a head, in kaftan with buttons on a chest, with a sabre (shablya), powder flask on a side, and a self-made rifle (samopal) on the left shoulder.[16] Around the seal was an inscription «Печать славного Війська Запорізького Низового» (“Seal of the glorious Zaporozhian Host”).[16] Palanka’s and kurin’s seals were either round or rectangular with images of lions, deers, horses, moon, stars, crowns, lances, sabers, and bows.[16]

Khoruhva was mostly of a crimson color embroidered with coats of arms, saints, crosses, and others.[16] It was always carried in front of the army next to the hetman or otaman.[16] A badge (znachok) was a name for a kurin’s or company’s (sotnia) banners.[16] There was a tradition when the newly elected colonel was required at his own expense prepare palanka’s banner.[16] One of the banners was preserved until 1845 in Kuban and was made out of tissue in two colors: yellow and blue.[16] Kettledrums (lytavry) were large copper boilers that were fitted with a leather which served for transmission of various signals (calling cossacks to a council, raising an alarm etc.).[16]

Zaporozhian cossacks fighting Tatars from the Crimean Khanate, by Józef Brandt.

Each item of kleinody was granted to a clearly assigned member of cossack starshina (officership).[16] For example, in the Zaporozhian Host, the bulawa was given to the otaman; the khoruhva - to the whole host although carried by a khorunzhy; the bunchuk also was given to otaman, but carried by a bunchuzhny or bunchuk comrade; the seal was preserved by a military judge, while the seals of the kurin - to the kurin otaman, and the seals of the palanka - to the colonel of a certain palanka; the kettledrums were in possession of a dovbysh (drummer); the staffs - to a military osavul; the badges were given to all the 38 kurins in possession to the assigned badge comrades.[16] All kleinody items (except for the kettledrum sticks) were stored in the Sich’s Pokrova church treasury and were taken out only on a special order of kish otaman.[16] The kettledrum sticks were kept in the kurin with the assigned dovbysh.[16] Sometimes, part of kleidony was considered a great silver inkwell (kalamar), an attribute of a military scribe (pysar) of the Zaporozhian Host.[16] Similar kleinods had the officership of the Cossack Hetmanate, cossacks of Kuban, Danube, and other cossack societies.[16]

Upon the destruction of the Sich and liquidation of Ukrainian Cossacks the kleinody were gathered and given away for storage in Hermitage and Transfiguration Cathedral in Saint Petersburg, Kremlin Armoury in Moscow as well as other places of storage.[16] By the end of 19th century the Hermitage stored 17 kurin banners and one khoruhva, the Transfiguration Cathedral contained 20 kurin banners, three bunchuks, one silver bulawa, and one silver gold-covered baton.[16] Today the fate of those national treasures of Ukrainian people is unknown.[16] After the February Revolution in 1917 the Russian Provisional Government adopted the decisions of returning them to Ukraine, however, due to the events of the October Revolution of the same year the decision was not executed.[16] With the proclamation of independence, the Ukrainian government has raised the issue of returning the national cultural valuables before the leadership of Russia; no specific agreements have ever been reached, however.[16]

The reason developers made Maltese, USA, Mexican become the actual civs is because they existed in the campaign, therefore people want to see them in skirmish.
after they completed people’s wishes, they will return on focusing superpower civ during the timeline(1500s-1890s).

Why do you want to bring the current politic in the game???
History never care about people’s feeling, only focusing on the evidence and different perspective.
Unless you only want the history to serve irresponsible politician, and using it as tool to fooling people.

Interesting, good contribution…

Of course, let’s stay on extra-political issues without bringing the current issues into the game…

I love to see a Cossack civ.

Mainly infantry (with lots of Serdiuks) with a little cavalry and some awesome Tabor wagons to either deploy as a garrisonable field fortification (using gunpower infantry inside to boost attack) or as a typical wagon following your army with the addition of a rate-of-fire boosting aura (supply your musketeers).

Some sort of Plundering resource (if there were a couple of other rogue-ish proto-state civs as well) where seiging structures gives a Plunder income to be used for top-level Cossack units.

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Good mechanic for civs like Haitians, Malay, Barbary Pirates and Cossacks /Ukrainians. One civ per each continent.

Yeah, I figured that Plunder could work well as a separate resource - effectively its valuable spices, dyes and treasures. Historically it was different to cold, hard Coin/gold as it would need to be fenced off or sold legitimately off to gain the wealth.

In game it could be another form of payment for units or sold off for XP (sending stolen Ottoman treasure back to the Hetmanate would give you a lot of support) - there’s lots of uses for it.

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  • Boarding mechanic for ships.
  • Captured of the economic buildings.
  • Coin from killed enemy units and from damage buildings.

your post gives info from 13th century… okay… so how does that make it a good civ in a game focused past 1500s?

In fact you have the Cossack hemanate that lasted between the mid-seventeenth and eighteenth century, so it doesn’t sound so quirky…

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Sure, that can be…

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Although I’m not the thread creator, I’d jump in to say that a Zaporozhian Sich / Cossack Hetmanate totally fits in with the prime of AoE3’s timeline (heck there was even an RTS series set in the 17th/18th centuries that feature Cossacks heavily, callled… Cossacks: European Wars),

They fought the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, the Russians, Don Cossacks, the Crimean Khanate, the Ottomans and they were also allies to many of them too. In this period they were mostly known as fiercely independent infantry-based forces as well as users of light cavarly.

In the 16th century they revolted agains the PLC, then in the early 17th century, the Zaporozian Cossacks fought the Moscovites with the Poles and also plundered and razed parts of the Ottoman capital as well as conduct pirate raids (pirates of the Black Sea, sounds so good!). In the 18th century they fought in the Great Northern War and against Russia. Towards the end of the 18th century, Russia surrounded and destroyed their Sich (their fortified settlement). The remaining Cossacks either joined the Russian dragoon and hussar regiments or fled to Ottoman territory to create the Danubian Sich.

As for in-game:

Musket and (light) melee Cav civ
Units can plunder buildings and ships
Cossack infantry can all be used to gather resources like settlers (not as fast)
Cossack houses come with a small farm attached to them.

Unit roster includes:
Poor Cossacks (Pikemen)
Zaporozian Infantry (muskets)
Serdiuk (skirms)
Countrymen (militia)
Djura (dragoon-type Cav)
Cossack Lancer
Zaporozian cavalryman (fast ‘heavy’ Cav with short-range pistol and sabre)
Tabor (wagon that provides beneficial aura. Deployed to become a garrisonable mini fortification for infantry.
Chaika (fast, well armed boats Cossacks used to go pirate)

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In fact they are in the three cossacks, or at least in the first and third (which is a remake of the first)…

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Then the Cossacks hetman should be introduced into the game for the hero unit the devs make to Cossack civ only in historical battle and historical map

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Then the Cossacks hetman should be introduced into the game for the hero unit the devs make to Cossack civ only in historical battle and historical map

Absolutely - there’s a wealth of historical battles for Cossacks, Poles (PLC), Russians, Swedes and Ottoman to fight one another in :smiley:

Of course the hetman of the Cossacks civ’s hero of Collect treasure, build trade stations, build town centers and fortresses like explorers. They have their own 4 skills and power storage skills. They also have their own aura command. All troops will be introduced into the game

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I don’t think we should be splitting up civs (especially when i got much backlash for my idea lol)

I think when we get Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth, we give cossack références appropriate to the time, and we give Ottomans some as well.

Poles and Lithuanian only themselves give too many content. It is worth noting that Lithuanian Tatars or other Balts like Latvians they were really loyal for Polish Crown. Ukrainians (Cossacks) are victims and reaction against Polish catholic Szlachta exploiters on their lands.

Ruthenians/ Ukrainians/ Cossacks is definitely other civilization than Poles.

Split French civ into continental French civ and Colonial French civ is nonsense.

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Ukrainian city builder. Action time is 18th century.

On this example could be created a Eastern European architecture set for Poles, Ukrainians and Russians civs.