Let's talk about Abus Guns

Abus guns are just awful in the treaty. Ottoman in general needs a nice buff for the treaty because they only have 1 infantry and the nizams are pretty nice but not trainable and both Abus guns and Grenadiers are not really good. They tried to adjust Grenadiers on the previous patch but I feel they are just worse than before because their siege got reduced I feel. I hope they make some adjustments on Ottomans. Their economy is decent but the units are not really good to be fair.

i think what ottomans need is either a melee infantry or an upgrade for their cavalry, either way they need better ways of dealing with cav and some mass.

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Their problem is ranged cavalry, to which they don’t have an effective counter. They have no trouble dealing with melee cav. Jans, hussars and cav archers are all very good at dealing with melee cav.

Yeah so also the Age 4 Janissary Cheaper card should also decrease training time by 10% as well as increase attack and HP by 5%, if not 10%.