Mamelukes fix

[GoofyWall386651]

@MatCauthon3

by the way - you last year said pros never make mamelukes - i invite you to watch teh rage forest tournament where they see use.

Please post a game where mamelukes carried a game in those series.

[MatCauthon3]

@GoofyWall386651

Franks don’t need to add any heavy cav

If hes going pure ta, why the heck are you going mamelukes? Same could be said of facing goths or incas.

By the way. Throwing axes may win cost effectively but they dont win supply effectively.

@GoofyWall386651

The only counter they can kite are halbs and its utterly hard since they have only 3 range

Of the units you listed it can kite or run away from everything except archers quite easily. Just because its hard for you means nothing. Someone even offered last year to prove it to you in game. You conveinently refused.

@GoofyWall386651

Please post a game where mamelukes carried a game in those series

In team games no one unit carries a game. Its a team effort.

[GoofyWall386651]

@MatCauthon3

Of the units you listed it can kite or run away from everything except archers quite easily. Just because its hard for you means nothing. Someone even offered last year to prove it to you in game. You conveinently refused.

WHAT? go and look at the post. It was about the mangudai. I said the mangudai kills mamelukes easily and he refused to accept so I challenged him and destroyed his mamelukes with mangudai.

[MatCauthon3]

@GoofyWall386651

WHAT? go and look at the post. It was about the mangudai

It was avout a variety of units you claimed. Nice try.

[GoofyWall386651]

1. show me where it is. Then say nice try. The dude was totally sure he would beat me with mamelukes if I was playing mongols. I totally decimated his mamelukes with mangudai. Then we did the camel vs mameluke where I won as heavy camel against him because of the speed of heavy camel. Thats why we concluded that mamelukes buff on speed would be too good. Then we did the huskarl thing and he won but it took him 5 minutes. Thats it. we did all the test he wanted I refused no test. If you want to test with me i have no problem with it

[MatCauthon3]

@WoeIsToWho

It doesn’t need to be infinitely big. I’ll create a new scenario where the space I have to work with is less than 50 x 50 and I’ll very gladly micro down Huskarls outnumbering me 2-to-1 because it’s that easy. Again, if you’d like to test these things out I am glad to send you my invite code so we can stop talking and start proving what’s being said with micro involved. It’s going to be more efficient that I show you rather than have you take me at my word (especially since you disagree with my word)

Its right there. He literally says he will take on your huskarls. If he can beat huskarls, literally any other infantry will fall too.

[GoofyWall386651]

Again, if you see my post we did this test and he was right but it was very rough, If you take into consideration of the time you need to micro the mamelukes against the huskarl. The goth player will have the time to invade your whole city by the time you are focusing on your micro.

[MatCauthon3]

You did a test wjth mangudai. A test that gave you the entire map. Not good testing conditions.

Did you test with the huskarl?

@GoofyWall386651

The goth player will have the time to invade your whole city by the time you are focusing on your micro

So rhe goth player has enough huskarls to force mamelukes to micro against them and still have enough army to invade rhe whole city? I call bull. If you have enougb army hes microing that hard against it youre not going to have enough lrft to br a credible threat elsewhere

[GoofyWall386651]

I have let the guy make the map if you read carefully he did the map himself. I did micro with mangudai. And yes we tested with huskarls.

[MatCauthon3]

And from what i hear from @WoeIsToWho your huskarls got slaughtered. So much for huskarls counter mamelukes.

[GoofyWall386651]

But why are you focusing on those it is not the main topic of the post its about camels and mamelukes

[MatCauthon3]

Thats how you use the mameluke. You dont just stand there and take a straight up fight.

[casusincorrabil]

@GoofyWall386651

destroyed his mamelukes with mangudai.

Wasn’t this equalizer?
And btw you killed a patrolled mameluke group by picking them of 1 by 1 as far as I remember…

[GoofyWall386651]

The dude was microing the memes man he was not patrolling them

[WoeIsToWho]

Hold on.

The arena was only for the Huskarl fight. Which I slaughtered the huskarls in close quarters. It was 3-4 markets of space on a side, which is decent, but reasonable for an “open area”

I never tested with you trying to micro Mangudai against Mamelukes in the closed environment, and for good reason, we’d both agree that without infinite hit and run, Mangudai would be slaughtered by mameluke. My entire point was that even with infinite hit and run, it was damn hard.

You microed the Mangudai in the test that mattered. I microed the Mamelukes in the test that mattered. I thought we had this settled. Now, Mangudai are slower than they were then. What are you on?

[MatCauthon3]

Umm because you said…

@GoofyWall386651

The unit costs 85 gold and has way too many counters. Mamelukes gets countered by halbs, camels, skirms, archers, teutonic knights, huskarls, kamyuks

So you are straight up lieing. Its been proven to you that units like the huskarl are not a threat to the mameluke yet you keep stating it.

Dont want to be called on it? Dont keep bringing it up

[MatCauthon3]

Who the heck patrols mamelukes? Thats a terrivle wsy to use them.

[WoeIsToWho]

@MatCauthon3

Who the heck patrols mamelukes?

Don’t @ me like that. Sometimes I have a bad day in my macro camp. >:

[Nerathion]

With good enough micro Teutonic Knights also die to Memelukes, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Kamayuks too (Mamelukes are faster, right?).

[MatCauthon3]

Tk your right but it would take forever.

Kamayuks are a bit more situational bc thd extra rangd. But why would you make mamelukes against inca anyway?