# Mandate of Heaven - An East Asian mod for AoE2DE

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**Category:** II - Discussion\
**Created:** [October 16, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/mandate-of-heaven-an-east-asian-mod-for-aoe2de/264371 "2024-10-16T18:34:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![CitingOregano34](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/citingoregano34/32/66410_2.png) [@CitingOregano34](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/CitingOregano34)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/mandate-of-heaven-an-east-asian-mod-for-aoe2de/264371/141 "2025-05-08T00:32:32Z")

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Ideas for the Tangut unique units:

Iron Sparrowhawk: an infantry unit, with a giant bird hat like the eagle warrior.

Xi Xia chariot: an axe-throwing soldier on a chariot.

Also make a Wukong campaign because it’s popular. 🗿

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**Author:** ![Tyranno13](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/tyranno13/32/127995_2.png) [@Tyranno13](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Tyranno13)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/mandate-of-heaven-an-east-asian-mod-for-aoe2de/264371/142 "2025-05-08T10:04:24Z")

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> [@Lesrot8259](#):
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> Will the Wu and Shu be in the mod too?

No.

This mod is to add the missing East Asian civilisations, and provide campaigns for all of them.

> [@CitingOregano34](#):
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> Also make a Wukong campaign because it’s popular. 🗿

Now you’re just monkeying around 😉

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**Author:** ![Skjecrxo](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/skjecrxo/32/189107_2.png) [@Skjecrxo](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Skjecrxo)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/mandate-of-heaven-an-east-asian-mod-for-aoe2de/264371/143 "2025-05-11T14:51:56Z")

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In reply to the new announcement - Great stuff! The Forgotten II. The 3 kingdoms clown court will be put to the sword. They must go beneath the Mandate of Heaven yoke.

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**Author:** ![WedgedAmoeba447](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/wedgedamoeba447/32/29249_2.png) [@WedgedAmoeba447](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/WedgedAmoeba447)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/mandate-of-heaven-an-east-asian-mod-for-aoe2de/264371/144 "2025-05-11T16:20:09Z")

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can´t waite to see it!  
Our Heroes are coming from the community.  
Devs! TAKE FCKING NOTES! THX

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**Author:** ![Tyranno13](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/tyranno13/32/127995_2.png) [@Tyranno13](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Tyranno13)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/mandate-of-heaven-an-east-asian-mod-for-aoe2de/264371/145 "2025-05-11T17:31:59Z")

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> [@Skjecrxo](#):
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> They must go beneath the Mandate of Heaven yoke.

THE DEVS HAVE LOST THE MANDATE OF HEAVEN!

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**Author:** ![Quasibrodo](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/quasibrodo/32/146865_2.png) [@Quasibrodo](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Quasibrodo)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/mandate-of-heaven-an-east-asian-mod-for-aoe2de/264371/146 "2025-05-11T19:17:37Z")

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> [@Tyranno13](#):
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> On the 18th, there will be a live-stream where the updated Khitans, Tanguts, Jurchens and Tibetans will be revealed. Alongside another look at the Bai.

Not all heroes wear capes.

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**Author:** ![SoleMouse123484](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/solemouse123484/32/191046_2.png) [@SoleMouse123484](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/SoleMouse123484)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/mandate-of-heaven-an-east-asian-mod-for-aoe2de/264371/147 "2025-05-11T19:24:54Z")

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What is the progress with this mod? Is it featuring new units or reused graphics?

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**Author:** ![Tyranno13](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/tyranno13/32/127995_2.png) [@Tyranno13](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Tyranno13)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/mandate-of-heaven-an-east-asian-mod-for-aoe2de/264371/148 "2025-05-11T22:56:09Z")

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> [@SoleMouse123484](#):
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> What is the progress with this mod?

- We’re getting things back together after the patch broke it.
- The Bai have almost completely been implemented.
- Reworks for the other civs are ongoing, including new units for them.
- The Chinese and Tibetan campaigns are complete, but need some touch-ups with the new assets. The Khitan campaign has just 2 levels left to do. All the other campaigns have been planned out.

> [@SoleMouse123484](#):
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> Is it featuring new units or reused graphics?

Reused. New graphics take an extremely long time to do for anyone not familiar with the systems, which we are not.

Thankfully the new patch and DLC gave us everything we need and then some to do everything we want.

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**Author:** ![Quasibrodo](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/quasibrodo/32/146865_2.png) [@Quasibrodo](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Quasibrodo)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/mandate-of-heaven-an-east-asian-mod-for-aoe2de/264371/149 "2025-05-13T00:16:16Z")

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Devs I’d like to make note that I hate that this isn’t the content in V&V2 despite what was clearly teased.

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**Author:** ![TungstenBoar](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/tungstenboar/32/173768_2.png) [@TungstenBoar](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/TungstenBoar)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/mandate-of-heaven-an-east-asian-mod-for-aoe2de/264371/150 "2025-05-13T00:41:40Z")

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Unguarded steppe frontier incoming!

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**Author:** ![Quasibrodo](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/quasibrodo/32/146865_2.png) [@Quasibrodo](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Quasibrodo)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 4:27am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/mandate-of-heaven-an-east-asian-mod-for-aoe2de/264371/151 "2025-05-14T04:27:56Z")

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@Tyranno13 are you planning on doing a japanese campaign too?

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**Author:** ![Tyranno13](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/tyranno13/32/127995_2.png) [@Tyranno13](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Tyranno13)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/mandate-of-heaven-an-east-asian-mod-for-aoe2de/264371/152 "2025-05-14T09:28:43Z")

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So far, no. The Sino-sphere is the main priority. Hell, we have to get everything we have planned finished first before adding more haha.

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**Author:** ![Skjecrxo](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/skjecrxo/32/189107_2.png) [@Skjecrxo](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Skjecrxo)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/mandate-of-heaven-an-east-asian-mod-for-aoe2de/264371/153 "2025-05-14T09:34:11Z")

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The proper Sino-sphere for men. Not the Beta male kingdoms. Hope this gets loads of support when its finished.

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**Author:** ![Tyranno13](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/tyranno13/32/127995_2.png) [@Tyranno13](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Tyranno13)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/mandate-of-heaven-an-east-asian-mod-for-aoe2de/264371/154 "2025-05-18T13:09:39Z")

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A reminder that the live-stream to show off the new designs for the civs will start in just under an hour.

[![](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/c/f/cf67f6036cfaa216debc9a10020ab1e9281e9498.jpeg "When Mods Do It Better (May Catchup)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OurmxcyAb5g)

And if you are interested in keeping tabs on the mod, or think you can help in any way, a link to our discord is below:

> **[Join the Mandate of Heaven Discord Server!](https://discord.com/invite/r8jy8EwZ)**
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> Check out the Mandate of Heaven community on Discord - hang out with 83 other members and enjoy free voice and text chat.

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**Author:** ![DynasticPlanet5](https://forums.ageofempires.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DynasticPlanet5](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/DynasticPlanet5)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/mandate-of-heaven-an-east-asian-mod-for-aoe2de/264371/155 "2025-05-18T16:22:51Z")

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As one civ crafter to you guys and this awesome massive project… how did you guys get a team going?

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**Author:** ![Tyranno13](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/tyranno13/32/127995_2.png) [@Tyranno13](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Tyranno13)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/mandate-of-heaven-an-east-asian-mod-for-aoe2de/264371/156 "2025-05-18T18:43:47Z")

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> [@DynasticPlanet5](#):
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> how did you guys get a team going?

 ![image](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/4/e/4e501c05585a316c8547a187af23daf84ce9eee5.jpeg)

But seriously, the way this started was I found a modder hoping to make something, but had no purpose. And well…

![5499df476a15c7f572d3083627fdf7a7](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/9/b/9ba9d4e45bd9e775a0e95f40b34b3664faa843ef.gif)  
So together we talked and came up with the idea of doing this. From there we created a discord, and then started gathering more people who were interested.

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**Author:** ![UpmostRook9474](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/upmostrook9474/32/47514_2.png) [@UpmostRook9474](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/UpmostRook9474)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/mandate-of-heaven-an-east-asian-mod-for-aoe2de/264371/157 "2025-05-19T01:35:08Z")

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Although I don’t always agree with every design or detail in the mod based on my knowledge of East Asian history, I have to say your teams’ enthusiasm and efforts deserve unconditional praise!! At a time when the official made such controversial decisions, your presence and work are so meaningful, proving to them that the power of the community is amazing and people’s opinions really matter.

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**Author:** ![Quasibrodo](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/quasibrodo/32/146865_2.png) [@Quasibrodo](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Quasibrodo)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/mandate-of-heaven-an-east-asian-mod-for-aoe2de/264371/158 "2025-05-19T01:40:49Z")

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Absolutely agree. Not jazzed about the bai generating gold while farming bonus but I’ll take that any day of the week over khitanguts and xianwei.

This mod is shaping up to be awesome, a high effort enterprise, and exactly what we’ve wanted and we’re promised.

Can’t wait to see more

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**Author:** ![Tyranno13](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/tyranno13/32/127995_2.png) [@Tyranno13](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Tyranno13)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/mandate-of-heaven-an-east-asian-mod-for-aoe2de/264371/159 "2025-05-19T10:10:34Z")

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> [@UpmostRook9474](#):
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> Although I don’t always agree with every design or detail in the mod based on my knowledge of East Asian history, I have to say your teams’ enthusiasm and efforts deserve unconditional praise!! At a time when the official made such controversial decisions, your presence and work are so meaningful, proving to them that the power of the community is amazing and people’s opinions really matter.

Thankyou!

While some of the designs might seem a bit tame, this is a result of trying to marry designs which are thematic, and also workable.

Not to mention people usually tend to complain about more “out there” fan designs, so we kept things a bit on the safer side. Focusing instead on a more cohesive overall picture.

> [@Quasibrodo](#):
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> This mod is shaping up to be awesome, a high effort enterprise, and exactly what we’ve wanted and we’re promised.

Thankyou!

We have a new level designer, one much more experienced than I am. So hopefully we should get those out quicker.

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**Author:** ![Atsavin](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/atsavin/32/113432_2.png) [@Atsavin](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Atsavin)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/mandate-of-heaven-an-east-asian-mod-for-aoe2de/264371/160 "2025-05-19T19:18:33Z")

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Any room for some Tai?

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