# \[MERGED\] Late-game performance in team games deteriorated in anniversary patch (42848) **URL:** \ **Category:** II - Report a Bug\ **Created:** [November 18, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/merged-late-game-performance-in-team-games-deteriorated-in-anniversary-patch-42848/108712 "2020-11-18T16:04:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kinquest](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/kinquest/32/29258_2.png) [@Kinquest](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Kinquest)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/merged-late-game-performance-in-team-games-deteriorated-in-anniversary-patch-42848/108712/1 "2020-11-18T16:04:37Z")
### ▶ GAME INFORMATION - **BUILD #:** Anniversary Patch - **PLATFORM:** Steam - **OS:** Windows 10 ### ▶ ISSUE EXPERIENCED In the patch notes, there are several mentions of improved performance in the late game: > - Improved the performance of the client during large-scale, late-game battles. > - Improved the performance of the client during battles which generate a considerable number of on-screen particles. I watched Jordan ([Twitch](https://www.twitch.tv/joadn_105)) playing a 4v4 team game today, with expert players (most of which have high end pc’s). The lag in the game became progressively worse, to the point where it became unplayable in the very late game. True, there were players from different regions, but the lag became more and more severe as the game progressed, indicating that it’s not (only) a connection issue but also a performance issue. Everyone’s “clock icon” became red in the end. They played on the US West server. ### ▶ IMAGE & ATTACHMENTS Watch from 4:34:00 as the game becomes unplayable: https://player.twitch.tv/?video=v807101663&parent=forums.ageofempires.com&autoplay=false ---
**Author:** ![SilverHawk4700](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/silverhawk4700/32/37737_2.png) [@SilverHawk4700](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/SilverHawk4700)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/merged-late-game-performance-in-team-games-deteriorated-in-anniversary-patch-42848/108712/2 "2020-11-18T19:38:01Z")
Yeah we’re experiencing crippling lag in DM games that we’ve never experienced up to this point. ---
**Author:** ![SoldHades147454](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/soldhades147454/32/29254_2.png) [@SoldHades147454](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/SoldHades147454)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/merged-late-game-performance-in-team-games-deteriorated-in-anniversary-patch-42848/108712/3 "2020-11-19T11:02:20Z")
Not improved is put very kindly, it’s just unplayable now in every game. Before the patch u had this lag “only” in some games. How can u release something like this? ---
**Author:** ![LinieSpreu12610](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/liniespreu12610/32/29258_2.png) [@LinieSpreu12610](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/LinieSpreu12610)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/merged-late-game-performance-in-team-games-deteriorated-in-anniversary-patch-42848/108712/4 "2020-11-19T11:32:43Z")
@Kinquest can you edit title it has become way worse? The lag in lategame TG is just horrible, and I m not even talking about all the disconnects / crashes. “Not Improved” is just totally wrong tbh… ---
**Author:** ![anon62311966](https://forums.ageofempires.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e19b73/32.png) [@anon62311966](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/anon62311966)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/merged-late-game-performance-in-team-games-deteriorated-in-anniversary-patch-42848/108712/5 "2020-11-19T11:35:32Z")
now lets see if they actually fix their game instead of all these mods on buildings for a change ---
**Author:** ![Kinquest](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/kinquest/32/29258_2.png) [@Kinquest](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Kinquest)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/merged-late-game-performance-in-team-games-deteriorated-in-anniversary-patch-42848/108712/6 "2020-11-19T11:50:41Z")
If it’s way worse, it has not improved, or am I missing something? I said “not improved” because of the claims of improved performance in the patch notes. ---
**Author:** ![LinieSpreu12610](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/liniespreu12610/32/29258_2.png) [@LinieSpreu12610](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/LinieSpreu12610)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/merged-late-game-performance-in-team-games-deteriorated-in-anniversary-patch-42848/108712/7 "2020-11-19T12:00:18Z")
I only want that it gets the right attention from the devs and not start a grammar discussion with you 😃 It is worse than before so technically “not improved” is wrong because it doesnt describe the state of the game correctly. ---
**Author:** ![Constantinus619](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/constantinus619/32/29735_2.png) [@Constantinus619](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Constantinus619)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/merged-late-game-performance-in-team-games-deteriorated-in-anniversary-patch-42848/108712/8 "2020-11-19T14:28:09Z")
what did u update regarding performance and stability? haha ---
**Author:** ![LinieSpreu12610](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/liniespreu12610/32/29258_2.png) [@LinieSpreu12610](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/LinieSpreu12610)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/merged-late-game-performance-in-team-games-deteriorated-in-anniversary-patch-42848/108712/9 "2020-11-19T14:35:11Z")
For older people they made a FPS cap at 3 so they can handle late game. ---
**Author:** ![FinalBucket3743](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/finalbucket3743/32/29498_2.png) [@FinalBucket3743](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/FinalBucket3743)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/merged-late-game-performance-in-team-games-deteriorated-in-anniversary-patch-42848/108712/10 "2020-11-19T15:21:58Z")
well, maybe the lag in really really late late late game improved, because noone will be in that game anymore, because everyone already crashed? ---
**Author:** ![GMEvangelos](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/gmevangelos/32/28747_2.png) [@GMEvangelos](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/GMEvangelos)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/merged-late-game-performance-in-team-games-deteriorated-in-anniversary-patch-42848/108712/11 "2020-11-19T18:03:26Z")
Thank you all for the report! This is the top issue being investigated by the team right now; we will let you know if there’s any additional information that will assist in their work, or when we have any updates on the situation! Thanks again! ---
**Author:** ![Kinquest](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/kinquest/32/29258_2.png) [@Kinquest](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Kinquest)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/merged-late-game-performance-in-team-games-deteriorated-in-anniversary-patch-42848/108712/12 "2020-11-19T18:17:23Z")
Thanks for your reply and the ongoing support. Much appreciated! ---
**Author:** ![LinieSpreu12610](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/liniespreu12610/32/29258_2.png) [@LinieSpreu12610](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/LinieSpreu12610)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/merged-late-game-performance-in-team-games-deteriorated-in-anniversary-patch-42848/108712/13 "2020-11-19T18:51:54Z")
Haha, look how TGs look like. ALL players are red and lag as hell, its unplayable atm… ![TG LAG](https://cdn.ageofempires.com/aoe-forums/original/3X/6/2/62ce722cb5746d880aec95420e4fd1cf7c6bc3b6.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![MEXcucaracha](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/mexcucaracha/32/71504_2.png) [@MEXcucaracha](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/MEXcucaracha)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/merged-late-game-performance-in-team-games-deteriorated-in-anniversary-patch-42848/108712/14 "2020-11-19T20:02:53Z")
The same is happening to me in games against the AI, in 4V4 when it reaches post-imperial the game stutters a lot and it is very stressful, it had never happened to me ---
**Author:** ![thieftdp8498](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/thieftdp8498/32/34716_2.png) [@thieftdp8498](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/thieftdp8498)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 1:38am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/merged-late-game-performance-in-team-games-deteriorated-in-anniversary-patch-42848/108712/15 "2020-11-20T01:38:23Z")
> [@GMEvangelos](#): > > Thank you all for the report! This is the top issue being investigated by the team right now; we will let you know if there’s any additional information that will assist in their work, or when we have any updates on the situation! > > Thanks again! for the love of god THANK YOU for being on top of this, this is really killing our enthusiasm to play the game currently. hope we see a fix soon. ---
**Author:** ![DerRichterrr](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/derrichterrr/32/44543_2.png) [@DerRichterrr](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/DerRichterrr)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/merged-late-game-performance-in-team-games-deteriorated-in-anniversary-patch-42848/108712/16 "2020-11-20T12:30:42Z")
I know we are talking here about Team Games but I played two 1v1’s yesterday and my opponents told me this was unplayable to them. I guess they’re not lying because I’ve never had an opponent complain about lag in 1v1 before the Anniversary Patch. Not sure if I can do a thread myself to report the issue since I have no actual proof of it happening. Also more on the subject : meta will be Siege Onagers with Arbs until they fix it lol ---
**Author:** ![kfli716](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/kfli716/32/62101_2.png) [@kfli716](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/kfli716)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/merged-late-game-performance-in-team-games-deteriorated-in-anniversary-patch-42848/108712/17 "2020-11-20T16:35:35Z")
Thanks. I think it maybe related to multiplayer only, I played a few skirmish games on single player and haven’t experienced any lag. ---
**Author:** ![OutlaWoftOrN](https://forums.ageofempires.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/58956e/32.png) [@OutlaWoftOrN](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/OutlaWoftOrN)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 4:10am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/merged-late-game-performance-in-team-games-deteriorated-in-anniversary-patch-42848/108712/18 "2020-11-21T04:10:03Z")
### ▶ GAME INFORMATION - **BUILD #:** 42848 - **PLATFORM:** Steam - **OS:** Windows 10 ### ▶ ISSUE EXPERIENCED ❓ _DESCRIBE THE ISSUE IN DETAIL (below). Limit to ONE issue per thread._ In team games (4v4) the game consistently lags right after imperial. Almost everyone’s clocks become red. This is happening in every game, consistently, so it is not a matter of happening by chance. Something in the patch has caused this issue. ### ▶ FREQUENCY OF ISSUE ❓ _How often does the issue occur? CHOSE ONE; DELETE THE REST._ - **100%** of the time / matches I play (ALWAYS) ### ▶ REPRODUCTION STEPS ❓ _List the DETAILED STEPS we can take to reproduce the issue… Be descriptive!_ Here’s the steps to reproduce the issue: 1. Play a 4v4 team game. 2. Advance to imperial. 3. Witness extreme lag in the late game. ### ▶ GAME FILES ❓ _Include a [OneDrive or Google Drive link](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/how-to-find-and-share-save-game-and-recorded-game-files/84162) to a SAVE GAME or REPLAY FILE (.aoe2record) of the match where you encountered the issue._ - ### ▶ IMAGE & ATTACHMENTS ❓ _Attach a relevant PICTURE (.jpg, .png, .gif), VIDEO (.mp4, YouTube), DXDIAG FILE (.txt), or [CRASH/GAME LOGS (.aoe2record, .txt)](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/how-to-find-and-share-save-game-and-recorded-game-files/84162) below._ - ---
**Author:** ![CuboidTitan6883](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/cuboidtitan6883/32/29249_2.png) [@CuboidTitan6883](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/CuboidTitan6883)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 5:11am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/merged-late-game-performance-in-team-games-deteriorated-in-anniversary-patch-42848/108712/19 "2020-11-21T05:11:57Z")
I can confirm this issue happening to me as well. I used to play with my friends before the patch and had no issues in imperial age. But in this patch, the game lags like crazy as almost everyone had a red clock near their name. ---
**Author:** ![Kinquest](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/kinquest/32/29258_2.png) [@Kinquest](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Kinquest)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/merged-late-game-performance-in-team-games-deteriorated-in-anniversary-patch-42848/108712/20 "2020-11-21T11:20:11Z")
This is a duplicate of [Late-game performance in team games not improved in anniversary patch](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/late-game-performance-in-team-games-not-improved-in-anniversary-patch/108712). It is under investigation by the dev team. [Next page](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/merged-late-game-performance-in-team-games-deteriorated-in-anniversary-patch-42848/108712.md?page=2)