# Missionaries replace Monks as a shared unit for allies **URL:** \ **Category:** II - Discussion\ **Created:** [March 19, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/missionaries-replace-monks-as-a-shared-unit-for-allies/198790 "2022-03-19T20:53:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![AlphaCreator727](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/alphacreator727/32/62674_2.png) [@AlphaCreator727](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/AlphaCreator727)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/missionaries-replace-monks-as-a-shared-unit-for-allies/198790/1 "2022-03-19T20:53:44Z")
In order to make the Missionary a more useful unit I propose to replace the Monk for the Spanish with the Missionary, even make them a shared unit for the Spanish allies The Missionary would have the same stats that the Monk but still affected by Husbandry and Bloodlines Yes … I propose that be able to take Relics What do you think? ---
**Author:** ![Vallistix](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/vallistix/32/110838_2.png) [@Vallistix](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Vallistix)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/missionaries-replace-monks-as-a-shared-unit-for-allies/198790/2 "2022-03-19T21:06:38Z")
Too OP if they have the same range of monks and can carry relics. ---
**Author:** ![AlphaCreator727](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/alphacreator727/32/62674_2.png) [@AlphaCreator727](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/AlphaCreator727)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/missionaries-replace-monks-as-a-shared-unit-for-allies/198790/3 "2022-03-19T21:18:13Z")
Same stats too, just affected by Husbandry and Bloodlines ---
**Author:** ![TheConqueror753](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/theconqueror753/32/207146_2.png) [@TheConqueror753](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/TheConqueror753)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/missionaries-replace-monks-as-a-shared-unit-for-allies/198790/4 "2022-03-19T21:21:00Z")
No, I think keep it as a Spanish only unit, but let it collect relics. ---
**Author:** ![PlumpDucklin](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/plumpducklin/32/85947_2.png) [@PlumpDucklin](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/PlumpDucklin)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/missionaries-replace-monks-as-a-shared-unit-for-allies/198790/5 "2022-03-19T22:14:20Z")
> [@TheConqueror753](#): > > but let it collect relics. and give it a speed malice when carrying relics ---
**Author:** ![Vallistix](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/vallistix/32/110838_2.png) [@Vallistix](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Vallistix)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/missionaries-replace-monks-as-a-shared-unit-for-allies/198790/6 "2022-03-19T23:00:20Z")
But missionaries are already affected by that, they get bonus hp and speed from monastery and stable. I think they would be too fast to carry relics, plus they’re riding a tiny donkey and not a horse. Maybe with a speed penalty or something, to make them move at the same speed of a monk while carrying the relic it would make sense, but if that’s the case i don’t see anyone making monks with Spanish ever again. ---
**Author:** ![TheConqueror753](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/theconqueror753/32/207146_2.png) [@TheConqueror753](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/TheConqueror753)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/missionaries-replace-monks-as-a-shared-unit-for-allies/198790/7 "2022-03-19T23:05:35Z")
They have a lower conversion time and range though. So if you could train a few quickly, send them to the relics fast, then bring them back at regular rate and transition into monks that could work. Missionaries could also have a faster healing rate to make up for being worse at conversions. ---
**Author:** ![Vallistix](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/vallistix/32/110838_2.png) [@Vallistix](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Vallistix)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/missionaries-replace-monks-as-a-shared-unit-for-allies/198790/8 "2022-03-19T23:18:55Z")
yeah but they have double the hp of a monk and can “gallop” away from anything that’s not cavalry, while the monk either converts or dies xD I think i’d stick with the missionary, besides they have that +3 tech, so 10 range is still pretty great. ---
**Author:** ![UpmostRook9474](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/upmostrook9474/32/47514_2.png) [@UpmostRook9474](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/UpmostRook9474)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/missionaries-replace-monks-as-a-shared-unit-for-allies/198790/9 "2022-03-20T08:29:54Z")
Make Missionaries cost around 120 gold if people think they are too strong after buffing. ---
**Author:** ![AlphaCreator727](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/alphacreator727/32/62674_2.png) [@AlphaCreator727](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/AlphaCreator727)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/missionaries-replace-monks-as-a-shared-unit-for-allies/198790/10 "2022-03-20T18:39:11Z")
> [@TheConqueror753](#): > > I think keep it as a Spanish only unit I guess if the Spanish had been a civilization from Forgotten onward, the Missionary would have been a shared unit ---
**Author:** ![CagyUnicycle330](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/cagyunicycle330/32/29597_2.png) [@CagyUnicycle330](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/CagyUnicycle330)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/missionaries-replace-monks-as-a-shared-unit-for-allies/198790/11 "2022-04-06T02:35:09Z")
> [@AlphaCreator727](#): > > In order to make the Missionary a more useful unit I propose to replace the Monk for the Spanish with the Missionary, even make them a shared unit for the Spanish allies > The Missionary would have the same stats that the Monk but still affected by Husbandry and Bloodlines > Yes … I propose that be able to take Relics Gives the entire team an unfair advantage when it comes to collecting relics for a relic victory. They already benefit from bloodlines. Husbandry was well would make them too good. I think they’re better as a Spanish-only unit… but if they’re gonna benefit from husbandry, make their base cost 150 gold. 9+3 range for missionaries would again be kind of OP. No team bonus **replaces** another unit. That is at the most for civilization bonuses. Making a **team bonus** like that would end up ruining your teammates’ gameplay… their monk units would take bonus damage from spear and camel units.