# Nearly outdated stuff that could be useful. (Potential improvements) **URL:** \ **Category:** III - Discussion\ **Created:** [August 20, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/nearly-outdated-stuff-that-could-be-useful-potential-improvements/165487 "2021-08-20T16:18:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 70
**Author:** ![OperaticShip743](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/operaticship743/32/104612_2.png) [@OperaticShip743](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/OperaticShip743)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 3:58am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/nearly-outdated-stuff-that-could-be-useful-potential-improvements/165487/70 "2021-09-01T03:58:14Z")
> [@Now the older minor civs need an update as well](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/now-the-older-minor-civs-need-an-update-as-well/138772): > > First of all, great job on the new maps and natives. They look extremely interesting and I’m sure there’s a lot of love and effort put into them. Now I think there is a problem very similar to the “older” civs: the “older” minor civs now look inconsistently underwhelming and uninteresting. Most African natives give ~5 technologies. Many of them also provide two unit types or even a new hero. Older minor natives typically only have 3 technologies and 1 unit. I do believe they can be made a litt… > [@Make the old Minor Civilisations great again](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/make-the-old-minor-civilisations-great-again/138565): > > The 5 new African Minor Civilisations (Natives) are more interesting and better than the old American and Asian Minors. They have some interesting and new ideas like unlocking a Hero unit, giving things like poison damage or salt mines. Every Minor Civilisations gets one new Technology Can unlock a Mercenary unit Can unlock a Hero unit Can give poison damage Can give (Gold) mine, Mango Grove, (Cherry) Orchard Can unlock second native unit Also the two African Civilisations get an additional… > [@\[Minor Natives topic\] Post here your ideas for every single minor natives so the devs can look at](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/minor-natives-topic-post-here-your-ideas-for-every-single-minor-natives-so-the-devs-can-look-at/169231): > > African natives just put almost all previous minor natives to shame, they are so good that they make others look bad. So let’s make a community topic with ideas on how to improve/incentivize/buff non-african natives so we can hopefully help the developers into finally rework minor natives. The rules are: Just one minor civ per reply, so we can keep a good track Post and explain why current techs/ units should be updated Post and explain why new techs/units belong to this tribe Pos… --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/nearly-outdated-stuff-that-could-be-useful-potential-improvements/165487)._