New civilization confirmed

Well, if we talk about international conflicts, and without taking into account the wars of independence of each country, Brazil fought much of its early history against Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay, but more than anything, its arch rival was Argentina (a beautiful relationship , such as that of France and England <3). But if we talk about international conflicts against powers, Mexico is definitely with the most daring record, it has faced numerous times against the USA and some European states.

Then, the rest of the Latin American countries have had at least one conflict against Europe, here I would like to highlight Argentina again, apart from having to confront England, France and Portugal at war openly on more than one occasion, it has had international altercations, perhaps the rarest case against the Sultanate of Sulu and the kingdom of Hawaii.

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Most of the European civilizations that were overseas empires with colonies in America and / or Africa are already present in AoE 3. Just that detail

Wikipedia only give general data or with edits with people who have enough time to write articles. I recommend other more reliable sources of information like this one.

Regarding the Jivaros, I give some key points:

They are a civilization that was never conquered by either the Inca Empire or the Spanish Empire (they were never even defeated by them).

Both Incas and Spaniards tried to conquer their territories repeatedly, in the case of the Spaniards it is due to the existing gold mines in their territory.

In the year 1599 the “Jivaro Insurrection” took place: an army of 20,000 Jivaro warriors rampaged 6 cities, assassinating at least 25,000 Spaniards (the figures vary up to 30,000 or even 50,000).

In the year 1600 an army of 1,000 Spanish soldiers (and an indeterminate number of auxiliary natives) was sent with the mission of subduing the JĂ­varos and recovering the territories lost by the Spanish Empire, these Spanish soldiers were annihilated, only 4 Spaniards surviving.

Throughout the 17th century and a good part of the 18th century, Spanish expeditions were sent to subdue the JĂ­varos, all these expeditions failed, those military expeditions were led by Jesuits and due to the consecutive failures in 1704 the Jesuits were forbidden to arm more missions (although more expeditions were sent clandestinely during the 18th century, all these missions also failed), it was not until 1767 when the Jesuits were expelled from South America that the expeditions against the Jivaros ceased. The JĂ­varon did not allow any living Spanish to enter (or leave) their territories and it is probably the greatest military defeat suffered by the Spanish colony during the 16th and 17th centuries.

  • The Jesuits, in addition to evangelizing the JĂ­varos, had the objective of conquering the Amazonian territory claimed by the Spanish Empire in the face of the threat of “Portuguese penetration into the Amazon” (which eventually happened).
  • The prohibition of the Jesuits to send expeditions against the JĂ­varos in 1704 was issued directly from ROME: "The Jesuits were forbidden to continue their missionary work among the JĂ­baros, by an order coming from Rome, on the grounds that the defeats were great and not justified the investment "

The Jivaro territory has been the source of many legends, such as the well-known “forests of cinnamon and a city made of gold” as was well explained in the Francisco de Orellana campaign of AoE 2 (before the Definitive Edition).

The Jivaro territory, although it was delimited, was not conquered by Spain. It is one of the reasons why there were territorial conflicts with Gran Colombia and Peru, in theory both countries claimed those territories but in practice it was a territory not yet conquered; border conflicts continued even after the separation of Gran Colombia (The last conflict over these territories happened in 1995)

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Finally: the Jivaron have appeared in various media such as movies, books and video games (as in the case of Blizzard games).

In my perception, the Jivaros have enough history and personality to be a Major civilization in AoE 3.

And regarding the Quechuas: The Incas were an empire, the Quechuas are an ethnic group that played an important role during the colonial era in South America.

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I just played a game with the etiopians, and I used the new Italian HC shipment that gives 3 great bombards.

Now, maybe it’s nothing, and it’s just my desire of seeing the Italians introduced, but I noticed that the tre units spoke Italian.

Now, I don’t remember other units that hade Italians lines in the game, so their addition might hint that way


I need to check if the housa dane card have a similar effect


There are a few that speak Italian, all of them mercenaries.

I am pretty sure the new civ is going to be Morocco, since we were supposed to get 3 civs in the DLC but got only 2 instead. It could have the same mechanics as Hausa and Ethiopia, or it could have something new entirely.

Italy is also a strong contender though.

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Little bombards and Elmeti have always spoken Italian that’s nothing new. Not sure if they have the exact same voice lines though, I never build them that much.

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It may make sense. It could be unlockable in the US style. Being free, it would be attracting new players from that country.

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Don’t remember it
 maybe because I almost never use the unit.

It is most certainly Morocco. We’re just gonna need to hound the devs for Italians and other civs we want. :slight_smile:

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I haven’t bought the African Royals DLC because should I invest on a game where they probably wont revisit the civs originally done a decade ago?

Bit torn on this. I want to support the game but not just new stuff should be developed.

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IDK there’s been discussions on this very forum about just that. The devs are aware. It’s a delicate matter.

Think of it this way:

The more support this game gets the better the odds old civs will get updated. Asking for a huge rework is too much but I do think adding cards or reworking some cards are possibilities.

This patch did remove some redundant cards too so that’s a good sign as well.

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Dont take this the wrong way, but I’m curious to know about the dev awareness. I dont see much comms from them to us.

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A dev responded to our concerns about updating old civs but I don’t remember what thread it was. I know it was right around the time when AR came out.

Many of our suggestions do make it into the game. The devs are pretty active, more-so than most.

The most recent example is I and many others were complaining about the AI and this recent patch addressed it.

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the units have existed since the warchiefs and always spoke italian similarly to Elmeti.

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Ah I missed that! Need to find it.

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This is the comment in question, bu the whole thread deserves a read as there are other comments from Tilanus that clarifies some things

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I assure you that they read a lot of what we write. Yesterday I made a joke about the possible new civilization saying it could be Wakanda and they deleted it. :laughing:

The game is on the right track. I assure.

An example of that is returning the formation in which the skirmishers do not mix with the musketeers.

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Interesting read cheers.

I always thought that I would like new stuff, but this is starting to look like power creep honestly. :confused:

Even when the Hispanic community complained that they did not pay us much attention, the next day I think they already communicated with the content creators in Spanish to pass them keys and allow them to make content for the community. So yeah, they pay us a lot of attention.

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Pretty much this. The very last patch contained a lot of ideas that came from the forum. Supporting the devs by buying all the DLCs is the smartest thing to do. The game is finally getting the attention and love it needs.

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