I am a Chinese player and I felt frustrated. I played AoE for almost 15 years and I bought every DLC since AoE 2 DE was released. But I may not buy this one.
Yes, the Three Kingdoms are popular in East Asia. And yes, it may be a good idea to design campaigns and even heroes. But NO, Wei, Shu and Wu are NOT civs, at least they should NOT be put in the main games. Even in AoE 4, the Zhu Xi’s Legacy is only a VARIETY.
The only solution is to put the three Kingdoms into a CHRONICLE. I do not know why you do not do this. In Chronicle we have Athenians, Spartans, wars in 5 c. BCE, new mechanics … everything is just fine for the three kingdoms! But why, why they are put in the main game???
As for Jurchens and Khitans, it sucks since they have no campaigns. And you claimed that “Changed the civilization of ‘Jin’ and ‘Tanguts’”. How can you change “Tanguts” when there are no TANGUTS? Do you think Xi Xia are not Tanguts but Khitans (so you design a strange Khitans)? And the Chinese translation is also full of mistakes.
Anyway AoE is a game based on (although roughly) history. Please respect the game and the history. The content of the DLC MUST BE CHANGED!
No Chinese players will like this DLC, whether it’s for the game AOE2 or for Chinese players, their behavior is a betrayal.
I will accept the DLC if 3 kingdoms are not treated as independent Civs in the main game. I will enjoy them as I enjoys the Chronical. But now? No way
几乎所有的中国玩家都希望能在游戏里看到吐蕃、回鹘、党项、大理、突厥等等这些文明。退一步来说，就算将游戏的年代设定在三国，我也宁愿看到鲜卑、乌桓、匈奴，而不是什么魏蜀吴！
真的气死我了！
They have already made a perfect formula for adding non-AOE2 contents to AOE2, which is chronicles, and it worked well.
So they broke it. Lol.
I agree 100%
Huge disappointment
Damn, adding Tibetans (吐蕃) would have caused far less backlash from Chinese players than what they ended up doing.
As another Chinese player I’m fine with it. At least the sensitive ethnic problems is avoided. When I heard the rumors of Tibetans is added, and it was confirmed that “Chinese” civ name will not be changed, I was really worried. That would spark huge controversies in China, unless you change the original “Chinese” to “Han Chinese”.
Yeah… but anyway there is no Tibetans now…
Instead, we will get INDEPENDENT Wei, Shu, Wu while there is still a Civ called Chinese. Isn’t this worse?
你这种所谓的争议全部都是被人带偏的，实际上中国的审查制作根本就没那么敏感。以往所有有争议的事情都是涉及近代史的，古代史的东西该怎样就怎样，能够有什么争议？除非在游戏里硬要加进“西藏一直是个独立的国家”之类的描述，否则根本不会有人在乎。就算有少人极端分子投诉，政府部门也不会理会
Yeah I agree they should be in Chronicles instead of the base game.
But well, there is a precedent though. Since Goth and Spanish can exist at the same time, I guess it’s not that far-fetched to have Chinese(basically Song Dynasty) and Three Kingdoms(basically Han Dynasty) at the same time.
就算审查没意见，我也有意见。我不会跑去举报，但我会天天跑官方论坛来说这个。如果那样做了，就是双标，之前印度DLC里Indians就改为了Hindustan，凭什么印度改了中国不给改。
我是支持改名的，特别是在出了女真和契丹之后。我也支持吐蕃出现在游戏里。但是我对一些极端分子的举报和对举报的处理没有信心
Goths and Spainish are not the same ethnically. Wei, Shu, Wu; Tang, Song, Ming are all Han Chinese.
那我想问问你，现在“中国”这个名字还是没改，但依然分裂出契丹、女真、甚至魏蜀吴这些势力，你会不会天天来论坛说这个事呢？“魏蜀吴”和“中国”之间到底是什么关系？这个不是更不符合逻辑？
我想说明一下，我都是支持改名的，将“中国”改成“汉”是更加尊重历史的表现。但是就算不改，我也没问题，因为“汉”这个名字在西方没什么辨析度。而且其实英语“China”和中文“中国”这两个词，是有着不同的意涵的。我觉得比较适合的方式，是中文改成“汉”
回鹘 鲜卑 吐蕃 三个文明 比魏蜀吴好很多
I second calling it Han in Chinese version. The westerners probably don’t know what Han is (the word becomes vague when romanized. It could mean lots of different things) so can be left as Chinese.
我会啊，也许每天都说没那个精力，设个闹铃，每周来说一次还是可以的。之前越南人就是因为锲而不舍地反馈，才把东南亚建筑模组改成了东亚建筑模组。有什么不能反馈的？
我对中国、吐蕃并列的反感 ＞ 中国、契丹、女真并列 ＞ 中国、魏蜀吴并列。就这么简单的一个事。至于为什么？因为第一个存在实际的分裂分子。第二个是已经消亡的民族，硬说后代就是达斡尔族和满族，没有多少分裂分子。第三个是汉民族自己，没有什么分裂问题。这种事本来都是不言而喻的，非要我说得这么清楚明白吗。
The chronicles dlc is made by another studio I think, if that was the case those 3 civs might be put back and just release 2 civs now
我就问你，既然有中国，为什么要有“魏蜀吴”？魏蜀吴不是中国？这不是反不反感的问题，是逻辑的问题。如果你将“中国”这个概念看成是当今“中华民族”的概念，就不应该有女真和契丹。
我的意思是，从你的角度如果将“中国”和“吐蕃”并列令人那么不满，现在将“中国”和“女真”、“契丹”以及“魏蜀吴”并列，你依然应该感到不满意。
所以你依然应该抵制，或者说，每天上来论坛反馈这个事情，反对他们将“中国”和“女真”、“契丹”以及“魏蜀吴”并列。