# New Sage of Empires article for 3DE (Possibly new content?) **URL:** \ **Category:** III - Discussion\ **Created:** [September 29, 2022, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-sage-of-empires-article-for-3de-possibly-new-content/214713 "2022-09-29T19:48:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![SoullessHeathen](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/soullessheathen/32/177779_2.png) [@SoullessHeathen](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/SoullessHeathen)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-sage-of-empires-article-for-3de-possibly-new-content/214713/21 "2022-09-30T08:30:54Z")
It could be an Asian cultural rework, similar to their mediocre attempts at making Native civs more accurate. ---
**Author:** ![SoullessHeathen](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/soullessheathen/32/177779_2.png) [@SoullessHeathen](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/SoullessHeathen)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-sage-of-empires-article-for-3de-possibly-new-content/214713/22 "2022-09-30T08:32:28Z")
> [@ScalierCactus96](#): > > The chicken I’m not so sure. > **[Tea pet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_pet)** > > Tea Pet or Tea Lover's Pet (simplified Chinese: 茶宠; traditional Chinese: 茶寵; pinyin: cháchǒng), also known as Chachong, is a small pottery figure which is kept by some tea drinkers for good luck. They are usually made of "zisha" or Yixing clay, from the region near Yixing in Jiangsu province, China. Similar to Yixing teapots made from the same clay, tea pets are unglazed, and are mostly monochromatic with a rough surface. > A tea pet is typically placed on a tea tray and has tea poured over it dur... ---
**Author:** ![Ekdal1378](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ekdal1378/32/34504_2.png) [@Ekdal1378](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Ekdal1378)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-sage-of-empires-article-for-3de-possibly-new-content/214713/23 "2022-09-30T10:15:00Z")
Please, no. They have mess the balance with that ---
**Author:** ![ArkadasLlisa](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/arkadasllisa/32/114107_2.png) [@ArkadasLlisa](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/ArkadasLlisa)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-sage-of-empires-article-for-3de-possibly-new-content/214713/24 "2022-09-30T10:54:07Z")
No patch for a month: AoE 3 is dying A Sage article: New DLC, Asian Rework Peoole??? Anyway, it could be that we will have new content. ---
**Author:** ![AssertiveWall20](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/assertivewall20/32/102618_2.png) [@AssertiveWall20](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/AssertiveWall20)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-sage-of-empires-article-for-3de-possibly-new-content/214713/25 "2022-09-30T11:18:43Z")
Mmmm I’m going to say we’re getting chickens and a livestock pen rework! ---
**Author:** ![AnyDiagram93675](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/anydiagram93675/32/205850_2.png) [@AnyDiagram93675](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/AnyDiagram93675)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-sage-of-empires-article-for-3de-possibly-new-content/214713/26 "2022-09-30T11:23:33Z")
Yeah the Asia dlc has been new dlc three asia civs for getting reworks ---
**Author:** ![GwentMaster2163](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/gwentmaster2163/32/185710_2.png) [@GwentMaster2163](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/GwentMaster2163)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-sage-of-empires-article-for-3de-possibly-new-content/214713/27 "2022-09-30T12:58:36Z")
My first reaction was to add “chicken” as a breed of poultry for Asian countries. ---
**Author:** ![ArkadasLlisa](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/arkadasllisa/32/114107_2.png) [@ArkadasLlisa](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/ArkadasLlisa)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-sage-of-empires-article-for-3de-possibly-new-content/214713/28 "2022-09-30T13:19:31Z")
It would be better IMHO to add real European animals in European maps. ---
**Author:** ![Scintilus](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/scintilus/32/211659_2.png) [@Scintilus](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Scintilus)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-sage-of-empires-article-for-3de-possibly-new-content/214713/29 "2022-09-30T13:42:11Z")
I hope it’s Korea since they have their own version of tea ceremony. > **[Korean tea ceremony](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_tea_ceremony)** > > The Korean Tea Ceremony or darye (茶禮) is a traditional form of tea ceremony practiced in Korea. Darye literally refers to "etiquette for tea" or "tea rite" and has been kept among Korean people for over a thousand years. The chief element of the Korean tea ceremony is the ease and naturalness of enjoying tea within an easy formal setting. > Tea ceremonies are now being revived in Korea as a way to find relaxation and harmony in the fast-paced new Korean culture, and continuing in the long traditio... ---
**Author:** ![KingStarscream9](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/kingstarscream9/32/104066_2.png) [@KingStarscream9](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/KingStarscream9)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-sage-of-empires-article-for-3de-possibly-new-content/214713/30 "2022-09-30T14:40:55Z")
I hope it’s not Korea but I really wouldn’t be surprised if it was. Chinese cross-over units + no banner system + a unique bonus or two = profit??? ---
**Author:** ![RatcicleFan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ratciclefan/32/115119_2.png) [@RatcicleFan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/RatcicleFan)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-sage-of-empires-article-for-3de-possibly-new-content/214713/31 "2022-09-30T15:49:15Z")
No, please mess with the balance. I’m tired of them keeping in bad design just because fixing it would mess the balance (or because of older players’ nostalgia). They said they would fix native americans only to simply reskin the fire pit. They still feel like Age of Mythology civilizations without gods. ---
**Author:** ![Ekdal1378](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ekdal1378/32/34504_2.png) [@Ekdal1378](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Ekdal1378)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-sage-of-empires-article-for-3de-possibly-new-content/214713/32 "2022-09-30T17:36:54Z")
Its just not the balance, fur market is boring, voice acting were soulless, new cards became the civs OP and some others are useless while devs change other things that were in a nice point to just balance the new stuff ---
**Author:** ![RatcicleFan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ratciclefan/32/115119_2.png) [@RatcicleFan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/RatcicleFan)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-sage-of-empires-article-for-3de-possibly-new-content/214713/33 "2022-09-30T17:42:23Z")
I’m not arguing about the changes being poorly implemented (that’s actually my problem), I’m saying that shouldn’t mean the changes shouldn’t have been made. Instead of not making changes, they should have been competent. And also the community plaza should be removed, it doesn’t fit at all in Age of Empires, besides not being a big change from the fire pit. ---
**Author:** ![Ekdal1378](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ekdal1378/32/34504_2.png) [@Ekdal1378](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Ekdal1378)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-sage-of-empires-article-for-3de-possibly-new-content/214713/34 "2022-09-30T17:48:15Z")
That has been there as a native core mechanic for 15 years, you cant change that and call the game a DE, thats for making other game, same for wonders and consulate ---
**Author:** ![RatcicleFan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ratciclefan/32/115119_2.png) [@RatcicleFan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/RatcicleFan)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-sage-of-empires-article-for-3de-possibly-new-content/214713/35 "2022-09-30T17:56:57Z")
It’s bad design, that’s my point. It shouldn’t matter that it’s been in the game since forever. Not to mention it’s based on a stereotype. ---
**Author:** ![Quirriff](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/quirriff/32/66356_2.png) [@Quirriff](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Quirriff)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-sage-of-empires-article-for-3de-possibly-new-content/214713/36 "2022-09-30T17:58:55Z")
I’ve said it many times, Asian Dynasties was a bad expansion. The Asian Civs were horribly balanced and too many racial stereotypes. Campaigns were bad too. What’s with Japanese not eating meat and indians not harvesting livestock? Consulate system was put there to fill the gaps in asian armies but it doesn’t work as it probably should, needs a serious overhaul. African Kingdoms was done much much better. African civs even have a 4th resource except it’s not stupid. ---
**Author:** ![RatcicleFan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ratciclefan/32/115119_2.png) [@RatcicleFan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/RatcicleFan)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-sage-of-empires-article-for-3de-possibly-new-content/214713/37 "2022-09-30T18:03:17Z")
> [@Quirriff](#): > > Consulate system was put there to fill the gaps in asian armies but it doesn’t work as it probably should, needs a serious overhaul. I’ve always been bothered about how slowly resources collect in AoE3, and Export is definitely the worse. And instead of using the consulate to give civilizations things other civilizations have by default, why not just give them those things by default as well? I’ve also always found it weird how Indians don’t get horses. And their villagers costing wood instead of food (when wood collects much slower) is really annoying, even if they have a card to change that. I seriously don’t understand why people get so defensive about bad choices made when designing this game and AoE2. ---
**Author:** ![Ekdal1378](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ekdal1378/32/34504_2.png) [@Ekdal1378](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Ekdal1378)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-sage-of-empires-article-for-3de-possibly-new-content/214713/38 "2022-09-30T18:10:00Z")
Its not being defensive, You cant call a game a defenitive edition and change the mechanics of every civ, thats making a new game. Let that to AoE IV. All of us have loved this game for 15y without that changes; Im agree with some little changes like new cards but removing firepit or wonders is going too far. About africans…the influence thing didnt feel too unique to me as it is a copy of export in essence: a side res to get techs and units ---
**Author:** ![RatcicleFan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ratciclefan/32/115119_2.png) [@RatcicleFan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/RatcicleFan)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-sage-of-empires-article-for-3de-possibly-new-content/214713/39 "2022-09-30T18:11:22Z")
> [@Ekdal1378](#): > > removing firepit or wonders is going too far. And I say just reskinning the firepit isn’t going far enough. Dances/ceremonies are basically god powers, which really doesn’t fit a non-AoM game. And nobody is talking about removing wonders, thought in my opinion, if a potential new Asian civilization doesn’t have potential wonders, it would be fine to give them different age up mechanics. One thing I do want to see other than the removal of monk heroes and Indians getting horses is an Indian split. ---
**Author:** ![Quirriff](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/quirriff/32/66356_2.png) [@Quirriff](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Quirriff)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-sage-of-empires-article-for-3de-possibly-new-content/214713/40 "2022-09-30T18:13:51Z")
Export is problematic for two reasons. 1. You don’t really have control over it, 2. You waste too much of it getting extras you don’t need, like Musketeers when you only want the cannon. Also a lot of things consulates give don’t make sense. For example Japan has dutch and spanish exclusively. But it’s not the spanish that give japan a church (It was the Spanish who brought Christianity to Japan) but the dutch. Also why does Russia give china a factory when the industrial revolution was late coming to Russia (and was one of the leading causes of the red revolution) and it was the British who led the industrial revolution and put factories in india and china. But I’m not bothered by indian villagers costing wood, dutch villagers cost coin. > [@RatcicleFan](#): > > Dances/ceremonies are basically god powers, which really doesn’t fit a non-AoM game. It’s wonders that are god powers. Some are direct copies from AoM. [Previous page](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-sage-of-empires-article-for-3de-possibly-new-content/214713.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-sage-of-empires-article-for-3de-possibly-new-content/214713.md?page=3)