No Communication, No Patch, No Hope - Yet Again?

While we have been conditioned over the years (and especially the last couple of months) to set our expectations very low, the extreme lack of COMMUNICATION is plain for all to see.

For the love of God, give us some concrete communication even if it’s that there won’t be an update.

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place negetive review to ALL aoe series, including future aom:retold to warn any potential new players this game series management suck and to save them money.

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I still enjoy the game, but I’ve given up on new content.

And I feel that my suspicions that WE is trying to kill the DEs from other titles in the Age Series for the sake of 4 are becoming more and more certain. To be honest, seeing that the number of players in 2DE and 4 is almost equal, I’m worried that 2DE will be the next victim.

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They intentionally removed the what’s on the horizon part in patch notes, and likely intentionally messed up two patch releases in a row.

That’s very clear communication. If you still cannot read the message it’s your problem.

Someone had to undergo the pain and humiliation of planning updates to the game they despise because the game they want us to play still needed a long way to become good enough back then. Now it’s their redemption arc. We will all be punished for playing the wrong game.

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It feels like some of the communication we have got is “NDAs, we can’t talk about anything we’re doing.” Which while annoying, is totally understandable. The devs can’t talk or they’ll probably get in trouble (like potentially even fired?). I’d also have to assume “fired for NDA violations” would look horrible on a resume.

It’s possible that there’s some long annoying approval process they have to go through to say much of anything. It’s a low budget game and “we’re doing x, y, z” now means community uproar if they fail to deliver.

The problem is probably with some rule someone above the dev teams made to cover his/her own flank.

It’s best to contribute to incompetence rather than malice, though in this case I feel it might be indifference on the part of some executive.

It seems clear we’re still getting updates, as the last few threads like this have seemingly come out “no more support! Everything is terrible!” and then fast forward a little bit and there’s a patch people are mostly happy with. That seems to be the status quo at this point so I’m working with the assumption that’ll continue.

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What are you talking about? Both games of the series receive announcements of announcements of announcements and quick responses and bugfixes. All players are happy.
Everyone is praising how the series manages its games extremely well. It’s amazing that they can support two games at the same time. Most series do not do that.

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I just changed my review of aoe3, I no longer trust the company

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The company: oh see how the rating of AOE3 drops. Yet another reason to abandon it.

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This isn’t helping the game at all nor is taking your frustrations out on the other AoE games and one that hasn’t even come out yet which also happens to have a ton of crossover appeal with the AoE3 playerbase.

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That’s not “very clear communication.” That’s you making a supposition based on the absence of communication. This dev team doesn’t do much communicating at all. You can’t imply much of anything from their silence.

Bingo. This is risk-avoidance behavior.

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Naa, that’s because you see it like that, maybe if the game is getting worse in reviews, maybe they try to do something on the part of a higher board and they start dismiss, let’s see if better people come to make good changes If, how are you going to defend that they do not have communication problems, it is an insult to intelligence to deny it, if all the errors were mentioned in PreUpdate that by certain are too easy to detect, it is a matter of proving it, the error of 8 crossbows and the lack of unadded content that was in the patch notes?? Do you realize that even they don’t test the changes they make? The issue of Balance is that it kills me, my God. I don’t understand why they had improved the US so much. You make some patches with very rotten shipments that caused scandalous BO. It was very frustrating for me to try to climb a good ranking against the US, I had to endure 3 months, not only with that but also the jaguar warrior, chasqui, 3 ribadoquines a lot of things that are broken were not like that, but they themselves make a terrible balance, The sepoy is horrible against cavalry also what sense does that make? an endless number of civilizations and units, cards that have been in an abruptly strong and also bad state due to balance changes, while you try to be competitive the more it hurts I am not a very high elo player, I have almost 1800 elo in 1v1, It bothers me a lot when they make a pointless patch, like anyone else, it only benefits those who play the good civ on duty or those who want to change to the most broken part of the patch

First of all, you’re free to leave negative reviews if there’s something you don’t like about the current state of the game.

BUT

This only works if they care about the game.

Let’s say if AOE2/4’s reviews drops drastically, they will immediately respond. Or maybe they don’t even need a review drop. Some mass forum complaints would make them work over the weekends.

There’s a very recent example: AOE2 ROR has pretty bad reviews. But they have been porting AOE campaigns to the DLC for free. This is not really a profitable move. Those who have bought the DLC will get them for free. Those who have no interest in the DLC would not buy it just because the Greek campaign is added.
But they still do it as if it’s charity. Because they cannot have a bad review on their more important product.

They wrote “what’s on the horizon” at the end of the patch notes. That’s the very limited communication we once had.
We don’t even have that anymore.

Yes, but a review is supposed to be a big picture assessment. How often do you update the reviews you write? That is, if you write something negative because there is a bug or imbalance that is being abused right now in the MP meta, and then they fix it in the next patch and nerf it to the ground (ie USA cowboys, mass JPK, mass giant grenadiers, whatever), do you go back and update it to be fair? I don’t. I don’t think I’ve ever become so invested in a game that I would do that. I might revise a review with a new expansion or after a major content patch, but a review is a fairly permanent thing, especially if you’ve ever had one that was widely liked and promoted to the top of some of the search engines.

This is why I don’t review bomb with a review. Yes, you’re free to do it, but unless the game is really atrocious and for deep and substantive reasons, I don’t like trashing them in a public review. Too many social media-fueled lynch mobs try to do that and it’s behavior I think is absolutely toxic to gaming as a hobby and as an industry.

There are better ways to give that kind of immediate-term negative feedback, like here on the forums or directly to the support team via a ticket. You’re much more likely to be heard and to get a response. My guess is that the devs follow reviews from a 40,000 ft view. They look at the percentages of long-term and recent reviews to gauge overall community sentiment.

Yes, but it is not a statement that game development is over. Only that they don’t want to make promises about new content or features right now. Not making promises is not the same as not developing at all. It’s well-known the team is working on AOM-Retold. If they’re like a lot of programming shops, they have some time dedicated to allow programmers to work on projects of their own interest because it really helps with employee satisfaction and sometimes yields some great code you never knew you needed. We have no idea how that time is allocated, or what people are working on. Again, this team is a black box, which drives me nuts. But we still get updates. There’s no schedule. No rhyme or reason to it, but there’s still stuff coming. When does that stop? Who knows? All we know is that they’re not making promises. To imply more than that is incorrect, and that was my point.

The lack of communication is inexcusable. It is very easy and takes almost no time to write at the end of the patch notes what is ‘on the horizon’ or if there’s nothing why is it so hard to just communicate that and say sorry guys we’re working on AoM for now.

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No hope? You ok @LevitexIslam ? Maybe try downloading a mod or something?

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Worlds Edge is behaving like a scamming company…

I don’t think Microsoft is fully aware of whats going on around and I am not sure it would be happy to know how things are really being handled for its Age’s IP.

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That’s a joke right ?
Why would you do that, because they don’t communicate, as long as they update , and the program works.
All you do is scaring potential people away who could play with you. And playernunbers are important to get updates.

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successive buggy update with no hotfix = bug management = our bad player experience , why should not we place bad review?

play in the market, get the prize. totally fair

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The issue I’m having with your first message is, that you want to punish ALL aoes, just because of aoe3.

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